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To: Alberta's Child; HitmanLV; Rca2000
Well, well, well, what do we have here? Mr. Brian Ross, my opinion of you as a hack has tremendously increased... something I had the feeling would happen. You have purposely deceived the American people and are still doing so while your party is rejoicing at every twisted manipulation you present as facts.

First, the emails regarding the first page, where this whole ordeal started, were innocuous and contained no sexual content at all. Those are the ones Speaker Hastert knew about. Foley didn't ask for sex nor had a sexual conversation with the page. However, you added some salacious IM's to your report that every member of the media was willing to portray as the “emails” sent to the first page, whose parents had no interest in doing anything beyond just stopping such communication.

The sexually explicit IM's belong to a willing EX-PAGE who was 18 years old at the time the IM's occurred. He was no longer working as a page since he finished the House Page Program in June 2002 and his 18 birthday was in February 23, 2003. The IM's happened in 2003 after he left the program and when he was already 18 years old... shall we say private IM's between 2 consenting adults? I'm sure you can't.

Funny, I was thinking last night, OK, let's assume those IM's are real... you know what? They read like IM's from a male escort, or from a willing partner. They don't sound like stuff from a child. Then I thought, 'why would a kid keep those IM's for so long (3 years)?' And that's why I was thinking about a male escort intending to save them for future blackmail. Why would a guy would want to keep cybersex IM logs with a older man he isn't interest in, unless he wants to use them someday?

The media isn't talking about the original emails because there's nothing there, but rather about the IM's, portraying them as Foley preying on a child. Keep in mind, and I'm not defending him or his actions (because of his stupid and irresponsible actions we might lose the House and the Senate and the consequences could be devastating not only for the Republican Party but for the nation as well.) So no, I'm not happy, I'm mad at Foley, but let's keep things into perspective, having cybersex with an 18 years old after he LEFT work as a Congressional page isn't the picture of a predator going after a child, is it?

And yes, the Republicans are still the Party of values and morals. As soon as any of its members of the House or the Senate are caught in a scandal they resign. Adios, Hasta la vista, baby! However, when the Democrats are caught in a scandal, like Gerry Studds who had a homosexual affair with a SEVENTEEN years old male page, Studds didn't resign. On the contrary, he kept getting reelected over and over again with the full support of the Democrat Party and enough support from his constituency. Bill Clinton didn't resign over the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and his Party supported him. And Berny Frank, Ted Kennedy, Mel Reynolds, to mentioned a few are still in power.

And by the way, just by watching the nightly news, I get the impression that the emphasis isn't on Foley as much as it is on the Republican leadership in Congress. The emphasis in on Hastert to resign. This whole thing reeks of politically motivated hacks determined to take control of the House and the Senate, and you are doing your part to help!

Oh yes, the link.

343 posted on 10/04/2006 7:11:46 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul; AmishDude

Remember the other night when posters on FR were saying we should be banned because we dared to question what Foley did and why it was illegal.


346 posted on 10/04/2006 7:13:15 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

As always . . . you've posted a real winner here, Victoria!


347 posted on 10/04/2006 7:13:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

The Dems just lost any chance for getting the house and the Senate.


352 posted on 10/04/2006 7:16:31 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

I think that yours is a pretty neat synopsis. The Demos better get their tweezers out to pull the schrapnel from their faces.


354 posted on 10/04/2006 7:18:29 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Victoria Delsoul
What you said...you go girl!

sw

365 posted on 10/04/2006 7:26:53 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Victoria Delsoul; blogblogginaway

I haven't slogged through all the threads on this yet, but has anyone noticed that on his myspace.com profile, there's a line for "sexual orientation" and he puts "STRAIGHT"....? Now of course there are closeted gays, but one has to wonder whether this whole thing is a set-up from the beginning, i.e., why was this guy allowing any IM exchange at all with sexual overtones from an older man if he wasn't even "into men"???? For purposes of future blackmail and/or power-tripping vis-a-vis the House Republican leadership???? Is this guy even a Republican??? When I read the stuff on his myspace.com homepage I find it hard to imagine a young conservative behind that page........


388 posted on 10/04/2006 7:51:10 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Victoria, you have been consistently well ahead of the curve on this issue. You are 100% right - there is a deliberate confusion between the creepy but not particularly damning emails and the much more extreme Instant Messages.

The liberal media is just trying to control the narrative and make it damning for the GOP. Will they continue to overplay their hand?

My gut says 'yes.' Or maybe I'm just hungry. :-)
502 posted on 10/05/2006 9:20:47 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Great Data.

Would please post your data on this thread, where a so called fr conservative is yelling about the emails and not clarifying that the bad stuff was IM's. Plese reply to reply #1.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1713931/posts

Thanks and ping me after your reply.

Dave


508 posted on 10/05/2006 9:42:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (SWIFT BOOT MURTHA!)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
You get the Wonder Woman Award for post #343. Great call. But it applies to (some) Republicans too.


516 posted on 10/05/2006 10:40:13 AM PDT by valkyrieanne
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