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'My body’s kind of rickety' ... Canadian vet won't make it back to Vimy Ridge
The Chronicle Herald ^ | October 3, 2006 | Chris Lambie

Posted on 10/03/2006 6:05:35 PM PDT by NorthOf45

'My body’s kind of rickety'
One of three Great War vets left says he’ll miss Vimy ceremony

By Chris Lambie
The Chronicle Herald
October 3, 2006

Veterans Affairs Canada is sending 300 people to Europe next year for a ceremony marking the 90th anniversary of the pivotal Battle of Vimy Ridge in 1917.

But none of Canada’s three surviving First World War veterans plans to attend.

"My mind is OK, but my body’s kind of rickety," said John Babcock, 106, who lives at home in Spokane, Wash., with his wife Dorothy.

Mr. Babcock lied about his age to join the military and board a troop ship in Halifax bound for England.

"I enlisted when I was 15½ years old," he said.

But the Ontario native’s papers caught up with him by the time the ship arrived in England and he spent the war near Brighton in a young soldiers brigade.

"The only action I saw was drilling," he said with a chuckle.

Canada’s other two surviving vets from the Great War, Lloyd Clemett, 106, and Percy Dwight Wilson, 105, don’t plan to attend the ceremony next April, where the results of a two-year cleaning and restoration of the towering stone monument will be unveiled.

"They wouldn’t be able to travel with us," Veterans Affairs spokeswoman Pamela Price said of the centenarians.

Instead, Second World War veterans, young people, politicians, bureaucrats and journalists will be part of the government-sponsored trip to France, Belgium and possibly the Netherlands.

"It’s really important to mark this achievement and to pass along the torch of remembrance to the youth of Canada," Ms. Price said.

Germans killed 3,598 Canadian soldiers at Vimy, in northern France. The battle, which began on April 9, 1917, was a rare victory in the stalemate that had grown out of years of trench warfare along the Western Front. Canadian troops captured more ground in three days of fighting than British and French soldiers had in the previous three years.

"It was the first time that the Canadian military fought together as the Canadian military," said Bob Butt of the Royal Canadian Legion.

"Many people have described it as the moment where the country actually became a country."


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; canadianmilitary; veteran; vimyridge; worldwar
It will be a sad day when there are none left ... a sad day indeed.
1 posted on 10/03/2006 6:05:36 PM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: NorthOf45
Vimy Ridge ...






2 posted on 10/03/2006 6:07:45 PM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: Clive; GMMAC; fanfan; Alexander Rubin; F14 Pilot; FrPR; Cannoneer No. 4; KitJ; Candor7

Canadian Military Ping


3 posted on 10/03/2006 6:08:42 PM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: NorthOf45

Beautiful story.


4 posted on 10/03/2006 6:12:32 PM PDT by spatso
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To: NorthOf45

Is the pockmarked terrain from shell craters?


What an incredible waste WWI was. The war should have been all the European powers vs. the Ottoman Turks. Instead the men of Europe were slaughtered for no reason, and Germany was cruelly treated after the war creating circumstances that led to the slaughter of tens of millions more. Stupid.....

God bless all those Canadian heroes.


5 posted on 10/03/2006 6:15:21 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: NorthOf45; SandRat; Mo1; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; ...
It will be a sad day when there are none left ... a sad day indeed.


6 posted on 10/03/2006 6:19:24 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: FrPR

FWIW, Canada had 66,655 military deaths and 172,500 wounded in WW1.


8 posted on 10/03/2006 6:38:43 PM PDT by CaptainCanada (Assalamu Alaykum - may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits...)
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To: Tailback
Germany was cruelly treated after the war creating circumstances that led to the slaughter of tens of millions more

I'm sorry, but that's nonsense. You've bought into the Nazi propaganda that the Second World War was an inevitable consequance of the First. It wasn't. All the blame for the "tens of millions more" goes to Herr Hitler.

9 posted on 10/03/2006 6:45:16 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Tailback
Is the pockmarked terrain from shell craters?

Yes, those are the same craters that were made during the battle. Many of the trenches are still there as well.
10 posted on 10/03/2006 6:55:32 PM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: NorthOf45
What a beautiful and poignant monument.

I wish we would produce more things like this. The statue of "Canada Mourning her Dead" is breathtaking.
11 posted on 10/03/2006 7:02:29 PM PDT by Shion (Bring Back John Galt)
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I'm sorry, but that's nonsense. You've bought into the Nazi propaganda that the Second World War was an inevitable consequance of the First. It wasn't. All the blame for the "tens of millions more" goes to Herr Hitler.

I don't think that you and Tailback are really that far apart on this matter. While you have interpreted Tailback's post to say WW2 was an inevitable consequence of WWI, it seems to me the point was the Armistice and Versailles agreements resulted in a "perfect storm", the rise of Hitler. I firmly agree with you that full blame rests with Hitler.

It certainly does not rise to the level of Nazi apologetics or propaganda to recognize that there were unforseeable results of decisions taken to end the slaughter of the first "modern" war. Just to remain on topic, that is what the memorial is about -- horrible losses of brave men in an effort that was not to be realized as envisioned by the starry-eyed: the "war to end all wars."

Only the dead have seen the end of war. -- George Santayana, "Tipperary", 1924. (Not Plato???)

12 posted on 10/03/2006 7:22:15 PM PDT by T-Bird45
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How many US veterans of WW I survive? I've always hoped that we would before the last one dies return to them that which we so cruelly rescinded; Armistice Day.
13 posted on 10/03/2006 7:24:49 PM PDT by Neo-Luddite
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HTML skills failed...link about Plato:

http://plato-dialogues.org/faq/faq008.htm


14 posted on 10/03/2006 7:26:05 PM PDT by T-Bird45
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To: Shion
What a beautiful and poignant monument.

Yes, I agree. If I changed anything about it, I'd switch the Canadian maple leaf flag with the Red Ensign ... the flag that the Canadian vets on Vimy Ridge died under.
15 posted on 10/03/2006 7:47:08 PM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: Neo-Luddite

"Only about 12 U.S. WWI veterans are still alive."

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,115021,00.html


16 posted on 10/03/2006 7:54:15 PM PDT by decal (Building a wall on the border is like treating lung cancer with cough syrup.)
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To: T-Bird45
it seems to me the point was the Armistice and Versailles agreements resulted in a "perfect storm"

That was my point. The ridiculous French inspired Versailles treaty was "The perfect storm" that led to Hitler being put in power. Old Cake is correct in that Hitler deserves the majority of the blame. However, would not Stalin eventually gone to war against Western Europe? If WWI hadn't happened the Russian Revolution may not have occured and Hitler definately would not have come to power. Then, WWII wouldn't have allowed Mao to take over China, the Korean war wouldn't have happened, and Viet Nam wouldn't happen. WWI was a stupid mistake and the European countries would have been better off pissing away their young men against the Ottoman empire and crushing the Muslim hordes back when the were much more inferior militarily than now after decades of oil profits.
17 posted on 10/03/2006 8:20:21 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: NorthOf45
Shion: "What a beautiful and poignant monument."

NorthOf45: "Yes, I agree. If I changed anything about it, I'd switch the Canadian maple leaf flag with the Red Ensign ... the flag that the Canadian vets on Vimy Ridge died under."

Agreed.

But I have to admit that the Beer Can Label is beginning to grow on me. Our soldiers are giving it its own lustre.

18 posted on 10/04/2006 3:21:29 AM PDT by Clive
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