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The Problem Isn't Foley
Opinion Journal ^ | 10-3-06 | BRENDAN MINITER

Posted on 10/03/2006 5:18:21 AM PDT by truthandlife

If Republicans lose the House, don't blame Mark Foley. All he did was implode at an inopportune time, after alleged abhorrent behavior toward underage boys working as congressional pages. He's checked himself into an alcohol rehab center, is the subject of a criminal investigation, and, if proven guilty of breaking the law, will likely face an unsympathetic criminal code that he helped create. In a world where sexual predators exist, that's what passes for justice.

No, the blame if Republicans do lose the House in November will rightly fall on the shoulders of members who one way or another didn't see this coming. It's not that Speaker Denny Hastert or anyone else knew specifically that Mr. Foley sent sexually explicit text messages to congressional pages. Unlike in the sex scandals that have rocked the Catholic Church in recent years, there is no indication that any member of Congress papered over known abuses. Rather it's the implication of willful ignorance that will plague the GOP into the most competitive congressional elections the party has faced in the dozen years its controlled the House.

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KEYWORDS: brendanminiter; foleygate; house; republicans
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1 posted on 10/03/2006 5:18:22 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife

I will not participate in the election of the Commie-Vampires.

Good grief, this is not the Oprah Show.


2 posted on 10/03/2006 5:21:58 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: truthandlife
The bottom line? America is sick.

Homosexuality and predatory homosexuality is on the rise. Lesbianism is quickly become an accepted form of exhibitionism and entertainment. Kids picked on at school or with a grievance now murder their classmates and others in revenge. Liberals and the media side with foreign enemies and think nothing of undermining the president and the will of the nation in a time of war purely out of selfish motivation for personal and political power.

America is sick and the patient is getting worse by the hour. Although most will steadfastly deny it and ridicule it, America is desperately in need of spiritual renewal.
3 posted on 10/03/2006 5:29:18 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: truthandlife
Foley didn't transfer an intern to his office then sodomize her with a cigar while he was under trial for sexual harassment with public accusal of rape of another woman, so what's the big flap over?
4 posted on 10/03/2006 5:29:30 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

A singularly stupid editorial.

Hindsight is 20/20.


5 posted on 10/03/2006 5:31:05 AM PDT by TheConservator (Confutatis maledictis flammis acribus addictis. . . .)
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To: TheConservator
Agreed. What was Hastert supposed to do? He confronted Foley about the e-mails and was told they would stop. He didn't know about the IM's, so how was he supposed to do anything? Was he supposed to have a private detective follow Foley around? Call the FBI and have his internet contacts monitored, when there was NO legal reason for doing so?

Pfui. I am not going to be stampeded by a media bent on electing democrats.

6 posted on 10/03/2006 5:38:52 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: TheConservator
He inexplicably withdrew from consideration several months ago. When ambitious politicians suddenly decide not to climb to a higher rung on the political ladder, there's usually a good reason.

Yes it is a stupid editorial. Foley's withdrawal was not inexplicable at all. He was homosexual, but refused to state that to his constituents, while everyone inside the beltway knew it. He was making passes at adult males and they were talking. The problem that we have now, and this was not created by conservatives, is that we can't make any "judgements" based on "orientation." They knew he was hitting on men. They did not know he was hitting on boys. Neither is appropriate, but we are no longer allowed to condemn the former.

7 posted on 10/03/2006 5:40:09 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: truthandlife

Foley's behavior was sick, but what are the Democrat's complaining about? What is it that the liberals find distasteful in this incident? Is it the homosexuality? No, because they like that. Was it the pornographic language? When have liberals considered pornography to be all that bad? Was it sexual advances to a subordinate? See truthandlife's comments. Was it the age of the subordinate? How old was Studds' page?

Did anyone ask for an investigation of Democrats who might have known about Studds' behavior or of the male prostitution ring in Frank's apartment? Did anyone blame the entire Democratic party in those cases?


8 posted on 10/03/2006 5:43:02 AM PDT by djpg
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To: Obadiah

From now on, if the candidate is not a eunuch I'm not voting for him.


9 posted on 10/03/2006 5:43:51 AM PDT by 2oclock guy
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To: TheConservator
singularly stupid editorial

Or singularly cynical. I think the Rockefeller wing of the party smells blood in the water.


10 posted on 10/03/2006 5:44:14 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: truthandlife
LOL! FULLFLEDGE ALERT!!! The DBM/DEMS are definately on an offensive! I've counted at least, FIVE articles alone this morning here on FR that the DBM/dems are calling for Hastert to resign or it's the Repubs fault for not releasing info. Which, BTW, Hastert has called on EVERYONE to investigate who had these IM's, and who released their contents! Over the past 3 weeks the DBM/dems have started the attack and they will fail!!

Wait, Wait,...Wait, for the backfire!

11 posted on 10/03/2006 5:49:45 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Obadiah
The bottom line? America is sick.

The bottom line?
If the GOP loses either house of the Congress, it's not Foley's fault.
It's the fault of the direction the GOP has been leaning lately - Left.

The GOP was supposed to be, and used to be the party of smaller government, the party of moral clarity, the party of less spending, the party that cared about the country AND it's people.

This, sadly, seems to be true no longer.

12 posted on 10/03/2006 5:51:51 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Obadiah

--The bottom line? America is sick.

Homosexuality and predatory homosexuality is on the rise. Lesbianism is quickly become an accepted form of exhibitionism and entertainment. Kids picked on at school or with a grievance now murder their classmates and others in revenge. Liberals and the media side with foreign enemies and think nothing of undermining the president and the will of the nation in a time of war purely out of selfish motivation for personal and political power.

America is sick and the patient is getting worse by the hour. Although most will steadfastly deny it and ridicule it, America is desperately in need of spiritual renewal.--

Exactly true, and whether it's dems (Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Gerry Studds, McGreevy) or republicans (Foley, Bob Livingston, even Gingrich with his serial adultery, there is a moral collapse--which goes beyond mere homosexuality--that is eroding the very heart of the American nation. I saw this coming 25 years ago. I used to tell people back then that I wanted to learn the cyrillic alphabet so I'd be able to read the road signs in the future! Obviously, and amazingly, our side--somehow, God only knows exactly how--won the cold war, so the road signs aren't in Cyrillic. The way things are going, maybe they'll be in Arabic?? People who believe fervently in SOMETHING, even if it's the wrong thing, will always defeat people who beileve in NOTHING>


13 posted on 10/03/2006 6:19:39 AM PDT by katyusha (Those who fail history are doomed to go to summer school)
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To: truthandlife
When ambitious politicians suddenly decide not to climb to a higher rung on the political ladder, there's usually a good reason.

Isn't that the truth...
14 posted on 10/03/2006 6:35:12 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: truthandlife
All he did was implode at an inopportune time,

Horse-crackers. These things don't blow accidentally just 30 days before an election.

The danger of keeping things in the closet is that enemies can simply wait until a time advantageous to them to release this info.

Hastert was negligent: he knew about it and didn't innoculate the party by bringing it into the open earlier. Nonetheless, Foley will not be treated like the Mass Dem congressman who KEPT his teenage page.

One thing for democrats: at least they fight back in politics. Maybe not in world terrorism, but they don't lay down for people politically.

15 posted on 10/03/2006 6:36:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: truthandlife

This author is delusional.

There was no intentional ignorance.

the democrats sat on INSTNANT MESSGES FOR THREE YEARS..


ABC sat on the instant messages from AUGUST!


16 posted on 10/03/2006 6:52:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: xzins
These things don't blow accidentally just 30 days before an election.

You mean that Dims and libmedia allies might have planned it?

This is me, being shocked. Shocked, I say.
17 posted on 10/03/2006 7:22:20 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: truthandlife

Truly, the excuse-making is pathetic. He was known to be a homosexual for quite some time, and you have to be incredibly naive to not understand that homosexuality and pederasty go hand in hand. The only thing that separates a homosexual from a pederast is opportunity.

This kind of thing, as well as more routine corruption and malfeasance, is the price we pay for putting up with RINOs.


18 posted on 10/03/2006 7:23:21 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: George W. Bush

Yeah, me too.

Absolutely bumfuzzled and totally completely surprised that someone would plan such a thing.

(I think our Pubbie friends play flag & the Dems play full contact. But MAYBE this is all part of a plan by evil genius KARL ROVE!)


19 posted on 10/03/2006 7:35:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Miss Marple

If the FBI cannot even search a congressman's DC office after finding a cold $100,000 cash in his home freezer, why should they be able to monitor a congressman's emails, not to mention their IM's?

When you're better than the rest of us, the laws don't matter.

Why anyone in DC should be surprised by this (especially the Dems) baffles me. What did they think was going to happen? Many people, when not held to the highest standard, will fall to the lowest denominator, especially if they think they can get away with it. The precedent was there for sex scandals to be OK with everyone, Foley thought he wouldn't be caught, but if he was, what's the big deal?

Personally, I think Foley should be castrated.


20 posted on 10/03/2006 7:44:59 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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