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In front of Islamic intimidations, what should the free world do ?
France-Echos.com ^ | 10/03/2006 | Robert Redeker

Posted on 10/03/2006 12:57:32 AM PDT by Republicain

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This is the translation of french philosophy teacher Robert Redeker's article published in the newspaper le Figaro on septembre 19th 2006.

A few days later, Robert Redeker received death threats from islamists. He's now in hiding, under the protection of the police.

Links :

French philosphy teacher in hiding after criticizing Islam

French philosophers back teacher in hiding after islam article

If you want you can sign a petition (in french) to defend Monsieur Redeker's freedom of speech, as a lot of Americans did if you look at the rolling list of names. Thanks to them.

1 posted on 10/03/2006 12:57:34 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain
THE Robert Redeker whom the jihadists want to kill because he was politically incorrect about Islam.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 10/03/2006 1:03:35 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Republicain
I have signed it. And I added this:

L'Islam est un culte mortel. Il promeut l'antisémitisme, le meurtre de masse et la domination totalitaire au nom de son Prophète. Et il utilise méchant et inhumain veut dire de s'étendre comme l'Empereur Romain Est Manuel II a noté il y a plus de 600 ans. Les salaires d'Islam jihad contre l'Ouest sont en opposition avec nos convictions les plus profondes et valeurs à la tolérance, le respect pour la vie humaine et la liberté. Robert Redeker est le prophète en fuite pour exposer la vérité politiquement incorrecte de l'Islam. Je le salue.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 10/03/2006 1:25:50 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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done..

From their site; "
Une dhimmitude librement consentie
Chirac a-t-il appelé à voter Mitterrand en 1981 ?"

Would you translate please? The word "dhimmitude" caught my eye.


4 posted on 10/03/2006 1:58:03 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Wisdom is supreme...and though it cost all you have, get understanding" -- Proverbs 4)
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"A freely submitted to dhimmitude. Did Chirac call on voters to choose Mitterand in 1981?" That's a rough and ready translation of the sense of the passage.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

5 posted on 10/03/2006 2:00:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Republicain; All
Origin: http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=808818&highlight=#808818

For years, I have tried to get people to educate themselves about this menace to the West and everything it holds dear:


-These are the Killer Links- the best ( or worst ) I could locate.--


...and for my troubles I've been called the usual assortment of meme's, talking points, and poorly-defined insults by the Usual Suspects.

But that's alright with me- if being predjudiced about a belief system that wants to saw my head off while filming my dying agonies, oppress the women I care about, and exterminate my Jewish friends makes me a bigot in some fools minds, then, so be it... I carry the appellation proudly.

I've said it all differently, but never better, than I have here:


-"Fire & Blood & Iron:"--

"I suggest to you that the time has come to get hard, and stay hard... it really is the time for Fire, and Blood, and Iron..."

6 posted on 10/03/2006 2:04:59 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: Republicain
A brigand culture whose religion promotes and sanctifies violence, deceit, murder, rape, and slavery has little in common with the Judeo-Christian West.

Muslims are like the aliens in the movie "Independence Day". They only wish to conquer and kill; to take over that which they neither made nor maintain. The sorry legacy of their homelands speak of the stifling nature of their religion and political systems, which happen to be one and the same.

Yet they would claim victimhood against those who allow them the freedom to live the lives they choose.

And they would hypocritically deny this same freedom to others.

7 posted on 10/03/2006 2:16:07 AM PDT by etcetera (‘War is permanently established until the Day of the Judgment’. Mohammed)
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To: Mark Felton
rom their site; " Une dhimmitude librement consentie Chirac a-t-il appelé à voter Mitterrand en 1981 ?" Would you translate please? The word "dhimmitude" caught my eye.

These are two seperate articles. No link between them.

Unfortunately, the first one (dhimmitude) is not accessible (broken link).

The second is about the new book of former president Giscard. In this book he says that, during the 1981's presidential elections second turn, Chirac gaves secret instructions to vote for the socialist candidate Mitterrand instead to vote to the rightist Giscard. Which is not a surprise.

8 posted on 10/03/2006 2:22:09 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Mark Felton
Here's the good link to the article Une dhimmitude librement consentie

This article is about the Redeker's article and the islamist's threats on freedom of speech.

9 posted on 10/03/2006 2:29:13 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain

Islam is the root, terrorism is the fruit.


10 posted on 10/03/2006 3:30:07 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Republicain

Islam is out of control. They must be rappped hard, over and over again until they go back under the rock. They will not be convinced to stop through "rational debate". That to them is an effeminate response to these male-dominated tribes. They call rational debate ridiculous and laugh at us for doing that. Only repeated, large scale applications of force and power by the Western countries will be respected.


11 posted on 10/03/2006 3:30:41 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Against Islam only massive retaliation will work. That they will heed.)
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To: goldstategop

English is the American language. Use it here please.


12 posted on 10/03/2006 3:32:29 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Against Islam only massive retaliation will work. That they will heed.)
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To: etcetera
To defeat Islam it will be necessary for the convulsed world to be brutal, ruthless and show no mercy.

To continue to fight this menace to civilization on their own turf and on their own terms is foolhardy and a sure way to lose.

As long as we worry about our image while our enemy blows up innocent civilians and cuts off the heads of people who fall into their hands, we will continue to lose.
13 posted on 10/03/2006 3:38:06 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: R.W.Ratikal

Sorry, that's "civilized" world.


14 posted on 10/03/2006 3:38:48 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Rapscallion
English is the American language. Use it here please.

I think goldstategop was writing to me. And don't you know that french is an American language too...? In the Bayou Country at least.

15 posted on 10/03/2006 3:50:15 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain

The first step the free world must take is to ban all religious headdress in schools and all public places and all public transportation. Would work wonders.


18 posted on 10/03/2006 4:54:29 AM PDT by tkathy (The Real Republican (RR) way is sticking to the issues and not finger pointing.)
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To: Republicain

The first step the free world must take is to ban all religious headdress in schools and all public places and all public transportation. Would work wonders.


19 posted on 10/03/2006 4:56:35 AM PDT by tkathy (The Real Republican (RR) way is sticking to the issues and not finger pointing.)
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To: Republicain

ping


20 posted on 10/03/2006 5:00:30 AM PDT by phs3
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