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In front of Islamic intimidations, what should the free world do ?
France-Echos.com ^ | 10/03/2006 | Robert Redeker

Posted on 10/03/2006 12:57:32 AM PDT by Republicain

The reactions triggered by Benedict XVI on Islam and violence are part of the attempt made by Islam to kill the West's most precious value, which is nowhere to be found in the Muslim world : freedom of thought and speech. Islam is trying to impose its rules on Europe : public swimming pools which are restricted to women at certain times, criticism or caricatures of Islam forbidden, strong demands for Muslim pupils to receive Halal meals in school canteens, struggle to impose the Islamic veil in schools, accusations of "Islam phobia" against free minds.

How could we explain that G-strings were banned from "Paris Plages" last summer ? (note : "Paris Plages" is a yearly event where a 2km sand beach is spread along the banks of the seine river in the heart of Paris during summer) The argument put forward by Paris mayor was strange : "risks of disorders with public law and order". Did that mean that the groups of frustrated teenagers would become violent upon display of beauty ? or did we fear Islamists demonstrations, with "brigades of virtue" around Paris Plages ?

On the other hand, permitting the Islamic veil - which is enforcing oppression against women - in the streets, is much more of a threat to public law and order than G-string is. It doesn't seem too far-fetched to think that banning G-string is an evidence of Islamic influence over French minds and a more or less conscious submission to Islamic dictatorship ; at least that this is a result of the insidious Muslim pressure over people's minds. Even those who rebelled against the inauguration of a "Parvis Jean Paul II" in Paris don't oppose the edification of mosquees. Islam tries to force Europe to adhere to its vision of mankind.

Like before with communism, the west is under ideologic surveillance. Islam wants to be, like communism before, an alternative to the western civilization. Like communism, it tries to claim its legitimacy and conquer minds by using an emotional reaction of the caring western conscience on foreign beings : representing the voice of the poor and needy on the planet. Yesterday, this voice was supposed to come from Moscow, today it would come from Mecca ! Today again, some intellectuals impersonate this "eye of the Quran", just like they did yesterday for "the eye of Moscow". They excommunicate for Islam phobia like yesterday for anti-communism. In its care for others, typical of the west, a secularization of Christianity can be found, which can be summarized by : the "other" should always have priority over myself. The Westerner, inheriting Christian legacy, is the one who opens his soul and takes the chance of being seen as weak. Just like communism, Islam holds generosity, open-mindedness, tolerance, softness, freedom for women and for sexual behaviors, democratic values, as signs of decline. It tries to exploit these "weaknesses" using "idiots utiles" (useful fools), i,e. good consciences filled with finer feelings, in order to impose Islamic order to the west itself.

The Quran is a book of incredible violence. Maxime Rodinson enumerates, in "Encyclopedia Universalis", a bunch of truths that are just as important as kept unspoken in France because they're simply taboo.

On one hand, « Muhammad showed in Medine some unexpected talents for political leadership and warfare (…) He made use of private warfare, which was then a common behavior in Arabia (…) Muhammad was soon to send small groups of its followers to attack Mecca caravans, as a way to punish the ones amongst his peers that rejected his beliefs, and at the same time growing a huge personal treasure."

On the other hand, "Muhammad used this success to take out of Medine, by the means of mass murder, the last Jewish tribe that remained there, the Qurayza, under the accusation that they had a "suspect behavior"."

Finally, « after Khadija died, he married a widow and good housewife, Sawda, and also young Aisha who was barely 9. His tendencies for sex, long kept silent, led him to be married at the same time to around 10 women.

Violence-worshiper, merciless war lord, plunderer, Jews killer, and polygamous sex addict, this is Muhammad as described in the Quran.

Having said that, the Catholic Church is not without reproach itself. Its history is paved with black pages for which it already apologized. Inquisition, witch trials, execution of philosophers Bruno and Vanini (doomed epicureans), and the one, in the middle of the 18th century, of Chevalier de la Barre, accused of heresy, all of these don't plead in favor of the Church's reputation. But the difference between Christianity and Islam appears just there : even if you twist the values of the Evangelicals, the sweet nature of Jesus acts against the drifts of its church. There is no horror done by the church which can be justified by the Evangelicals, as Jesus is non-violent. Returning to the very nature of Jesus is a direct response against the excesses of the church. Returning to the very nature of Muhammad, on the other hand, leads to a reinforcement of hatred and violence. Jesus is a master of Love, Muhammad is a master of Hate.

The ritual stoning of Satan, each year in Make, is not only a superstitious phenomenon. It doesn't just show a maddened crowd flirting with barbarian times, it also has an anthropological reach. Indeed, this is a ritual - that every Muslim is supposed to accomplish - that carves violence as a sacred duty for every believer.

This stoning, which comes each year with death by stampeding of a number of believers, sometimes a few hundreds, is a ritual that contains archaic violence built in. Unlike Judaism and Christianity, which both neutralize violent tendencies of the human being (Judaism starts by rejecting the human sacrifices, that is, entering into civilization, and Christianity transforms this sacrifice into Eucharist), Islam provides a nest for violence, where it can slowly build up.

While Judaism and Christianity are religions where traditions forbid violence and deny its legitimacy, Islam is a religion whose holy book as well as common acts of faith, promote violence and hatred.

Hatred and violence fill the book with which each Muslim is educated, the Quran. Like during cold war, violence and intimidation are the weapons used by an ideology of hegemonic will, Islam, to impose its censorship over the whole planet. Benedict XIV is just painfully experiencing it now. Just like cold war times, the West should be called "the free world" against "the Muslim world" ; and just like during those times, the opponents of such "free world", numerous devoted servants of Quranic Totalitarianism, can move and speak freely within its own borders.

(Philosopher and teacher in St Orens de Gameville - about to publish "Breakdown and philosophy" (ed. Pleins Feux)

Published in Le Figaro, Sept 19th 2006

Translated by Claude, France-Echos.com


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This is the translation of french philosophy teacher Robert Redeker's article published in the newspaper le Figaro on septembre 19th 2006.

A few days later, Robert Redeker received death threats from islamists. He's now in hiding, under the protection of the police.

Links :

French philosphy teacher in hiding after criticizing Islam

French philosophers back teacher in hiding after islam article

If you want you can sign a petition (in french) to defend Monsieur Redeker's freedom of speech, as a lot of Americans did if you look at the rolling list of names. Thanks to them.

1 posted on 10/03/2006 12:57:34 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain
THE Robert Redeker whom the jihadists want to kill because he was politically incorrect about Islam.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 10/03/2006 1:03:35 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Republicain
I have signed it. And I added this:

L'Islam est un culte mortel. Il promeut l'antisémitisme, le meurtre de masse et la domination totalitaire au nom de son Prophète. Et il utilise méchant et inhumain veut dire de s'étendre comme l'Empereur Romain Est Manuel II a noté il y a plus de 600 ans. Les salaires d'Islam jihad contre l'Ouest sont en opposition avec nos convictions les plus profondes et valeurs à la tolérance, le respect pour la vie humaine et la liberté. Robert Redeker est le prophète en fuite pour exposer la vérité politiquement incorrecte de l'Islam. Je le salue.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 10/03/2006 1:25:50 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

done..

From their site; "
Une dhimmitude librement consentie
Chirac a-t-il appelé à voter Mitterrand en 1981 ?"

Would you translate please? The word "dhimmitude" caught my eye.


4 posted on 10/03/2006 1:58:03 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Wisdom is supreme...and though it cost all you have, get understanding" -- Proverbs 4)
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To: Mark Felton
"A freely submitted to dhimmitude. Did Chirac call on voters to choose Mitterand in 1981?" That's a rough and ready translation of the sense of the passage.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

5 posted on 10/03/2006 2:00:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Republicain; All
Origin: http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=808818&highlight=#808818

For years, I have tried to get people to educate themselves about this menace to the West and everything it holds dear:


-These are the Killer Links- the best ( or worst ) I could locate.--


...and for my troubles I've been called the usual assortment of meme's, talking points, and poorly-defined insults by the Usual Suspects.

But that's alright with me- if being predjudiced about a belief system that wants to saw my head off while filming my dying agonies, oppress the women I care about, and exterminate my Jewish friends makes me a bigot in some fools minds, then, so be it... I carry the appellation proudly.

I've said it all differently, but never better, than I have here:


-"Fire & Blood & Iron:"--

"I suggest to you that the time has come to get hard, and stay hard... it really is the time for Fire, and Blood, and Iron..."

6 posted on 10/03/2006 2:04:59 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: Republicain
A brigand culture whose religion promotes and sanctifies violence, deceit, murder, rape, and slavery has little in common with the Judeo-Christian West.

Muslims are like the aliens in the movie "Independence Day". They only wish to conquer and kill; to take over that which they neither made nor maintain. The sorry legacy of their homelands speak of the stifling nature of their religion and political systems, which happen to be one and the same.

Yet they would claim victimhood against those who allow them the freedom to live the lives they choose.

And they would hypocritically deny this same freedom to others.

7 posted on 10/03/2006 2:16:07 AM PDT by etcetera (‘War is permanently established until the Day of the Judgment’. Mohammed)
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To: Mark Felton
rom their site; " Une dhimmitude librement consentie Chirac a-t-il appelé à voter Mitterrand en 1981 ?" Would you translate please? The word "dhimmitude" caught my eye.

These are two seperate articles. No link between them.

Unfortunately, the first one (dhimmitude) is not accessible (broken link).

The second is about the new book of former president Giscard. In this book he says that, during the 1981's presidential elections second turn, Chirac gaves secret instructions to vote for the socialist candidate Mitterrand instead to vote to the rightist Giscard. Which is not a surprise.

8 posted on 10/03/2006 2:22:09 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Mark Felton
Here's the good link to the article Une dhimmitude librement consentie

This article is about the Redeker's article and the islamist's threats on freedom of speech.

9 posted on 10/03/2006 2:29:13 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain

Islam is the root, terrorism is the fruit.


10 posted on 10/03/2006 3:30:07 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Republicain

Islam is out of control. They must be rappped hard, over and over again until they go back under the rock. They will not be convinced to stop through "rational debate". That to them is an effeminate response to these male-dominated tribes. They call rational debate ridiculous and laugh at us for doing that. Only repeated, large scale applications of force and power by the Western countries will be respected.


11 posted on 10/03/2006 3:30:41 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Against Islam only massive retaliation will work. That they will heed.)
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To: goldstategop

English is the American language. Use it here please.


12 posted on 10/03/2006 3:32:29 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Against Islam only massive retaliation will work. That they will heed.)
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To: etcetera
To defeat Islam it will be necessary for the convulsed world to be brutal, ruthless and show no mercy.

To continue to fight this menace to civilization on their own turf and on their own terms is foolhardy and a sure way to lose.

As long as we worry about our image while our enemy blows up innocent civilians and cuts off the heads of people who fall into their hands, we will continue to lose.
13 posted on 10/03/2006 3:38:06 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: R.W.Ratikal

Sorry, that's "civilized" world.


14 posted on 10/03/2006 3:38:48 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Rapscallion
English is the American language. Use it here please.

I think goldstategop was writing to me. And don't you know that french is an American language too...? In the Bayou Country at least.

15 posted on 10/03/2006 3:50:15 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain

The first step the free world must take is to ban all religious headdress in schools and all public places and all public transportation. Would work wonders.


18 posted on 10/03/2006 4:54:29 AM PDT by tkathy (The Real Republican (RR) way is sticking to the issues and not finger pointing.)
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To: Republicain

The first step the free world must take is to ban all religious headdress in schools and all public places and all public transportation. Would work wonders.


19 posted on 10/03/2006 4:56:35 AM PDT by tkathy (The Real Republican (RR) way is sticking to the issues and not finger pointing.)
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To: Republicain

ping


20 posted on 10/03/2006 5:00:30 AM PDT by phs3
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