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In Europe It’s Fish Oil After Heart Attacks, but Not in U.S.
NY Times ^ | October 3, 2006 | ELISABETH ROSENTHAL

Posted on 10/02/2006 9:15:49 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Also give her Vit C. She can use some large doses. Vit E will be helpful, too. We're also giving our old dog glucosamine as well.

Appreciate the info- thank you.

61 posted on 10/03/2006 4:48:44 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: swmobuffalo

Red Alaska canned salmon. $2.09 a can here and really tasty in dishes.


62 posted on 10/03/2006 4:55:48 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: swmobuffalo

Tons of items on the market. Do you have a Trader Joe's by you? Or any health food or drug store. Whole Foods.


63 posted on 10/03/2006 4:57:23 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: djf
Studies in the 60s and 70s also showed the importance of Magnesium. Absolutely essential for something like 300 enzyme processes in the body. Many chronic cases of angina were cured with Magnesium. Just google "magnesium heart"

Try getting one of the most important minerals to the heart there is (so I've read), in RDA quantities, Potassium.

3.5-4.7 GRAMS. Funny (not ha ha) how the FedGov has limited suppliments to 99mg.

I'm not taking 47 tablets a day.

Go to Home Depot or Lowes and pick up a 40 LB bag of Potassium Chloride by the Morton salt company made for water softeners (+20yr supply). Use some dedicated clean tools to powderize the small block and take 1/4 teaspoon 3 times a day with food to get ~4.5 grams of potassium.

If you have a current heart condition or are not 100% sure it's OK with your doctor to switch to potassium chloride from sodium chloride you may kill yourself. It's supposedly why the FedGov has limited the suppliments to 99MG each tablet.

But without enough K, you are slowly killing yourself over years and years.

64 posted on 10/03/2006 5:00:18 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: ModelBreaker

I order the majority of my supplements from lef.org because I trust the quality of their products.


65 posted on 10/03/2006 5:02:23 AM PDT by muggs
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To: swmobuffalo
Yeah, salmon a couple of times a week.

Readily done. Needs no prescription.

You should already be doing that anyway.

66 posted on 10/03/2006 5:14:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: backhoe
I believe you will see an improvement quickly. How much does she weigh?

I'm giving Bogie (probably about 50 lbs) 1 1/2 grams Ester C twice a day as well as the glucosamin at the same time. I crush it and mix it in with yummy food.

Good luck. These old dogs are important to us. To show to what lengths we're going, we must go on a long trip to our grandson's wedding. We are taking our motor home instead of flying just so we can take Bogie with us. He's blind and we have no one that can take care of him.

67 posted on 10/03/2006 5:35:05 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ableLight

.....That's a pretty stiff dose......

Not really. I take 2,000 mgs perday. You work up to it gradually.


68 posted on 10/03/2006 5:44:48 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: Yossarian
Technically, tachycardia just means rapid heart rate. Possibly the docs were referring to ventricular tachycardia which is when the lower half of the heart takes off beating rapidly and independently of the top half - a deadly rhythm.
I know that this is just one person's anecdotal evidence but my own irregular heart beats have almost stopped since I started on twice daily (enteric coated) fish oil. I would lay in bed and feel my heart "turn over" or "flutter" but not any more. My irregularites were of the upper half of the heart (more benign) so perhaps that is where the fish oil is helpful.
69 posted on 10/03/2006 5:53:08 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: Gondring

It's nanny state to think that anyone other than youself should be more concerned with your health than you are. What any sensible person would do is investigate the subject and bring it up with their doctor, not wait until the doctor brings it up with them. Like any professional doctors have a million things on their mind and tend to fall into patterns when treating cases.


70 posted on 10/03/2006 6:04:18 AM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: neverdem

My kids' pediatrician didn't get the memo that she's not supposed to recommend fish oil. She has both my kids on it because "it's good for just about everything."

We use Carlson's lemon-flavored in the bottle since they can't swallow those huge capsules. Hubby and I take it, too.


71 posted on 10/03/2006 7:35:52 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: ableLight; All

You might like this thread;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1538433/posts

St. John's Wart medline;

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=10454050&query_hl=8&itool=pubmed_docsum


72 posted on 10/03/2006 8:00:49 AM PDT by oxcart (Journalism [Sic])
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To: The Westerner

As far as I know, only dark wines contain large amounts of resveratrol. Pinot Noir wines from grapes grown in cool climates have the most; i.e. Pinot Noirs from southern france, Oregon and New York.


73 posted on 10/03/2006 8:18:19 AM PDT by ableLight
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To: USCG SimTech

Thnx. I didn't know you could get it from Lowes, I been paying like everybody else for 99 mg tabs.

Potassium and magnesium are similar in that the body needs it in the cells, but doesn't like it in the intercellular fluids. So you kind of have to overdose on it a bit.

I know if I take a bit too much Mg, it's like taking too much Vitamin C. I get to sit on the porcelain throne for awhile.


74 posted on 10/03/2006 8:42:11 AM PDT by djf (There is no such thing as "moderate muslims". They are all "silent supporters!!")
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To: USCG SimTech

You can also get it from salt substitutes. I use NaCl rarely, and only in sea salt form.

If I use "salt", it's usually Morton salt substitute.


75 posted on 10/03/2006 8:45:47 AM PDT by djf (There is no such thing as "moderate muslims". They are all "silent supporters!!")
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To: muawiyah

"salmon"

I don't like salmon so I'll have to check the other alternatives!


76 posted on 10/03/2006 10:23:41 AM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: djf

I've just been been diagnosed with hypothyroidism and was told to take 500 mg of magnesium to alleviate the side effects of synthroid, such as anxiety and racing heart.


77 posted on 10/03/2006 10:32:17 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: neverdem

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Great discussions here as I am looking for alternatives to the meds I am on: Zestril, Norvasc, Toprol XL (all previous for HBP) & Zocor. Any FReeper thoughts welcomed...


78 posted on 10/03/2006 11:32:31 AM PDT by T-Bird45
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To: swmobuffalo

Yes, every bottle of fish oil out there is full of omega-3 and -6 fatty acids.

Of course the NYT managed to focus on the company who took the same ordinary fish oil, jumped through the FDA hoops, and now charges about $300 for what you can get on store shelves for $10.


79 posted on 10/03/2006 11:34:48 AM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: T-Bird45
Any FReeper thoughts welcomed...

Increase exercise as tolerated and talk to your doc.

80 posted on 10/03/2006 11:59:51 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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