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Ted Turner: Give Muslim Extremists What They Want to Stop Terrorism
newsbusters.org ^ | September 30, 2006 | Brad Wilmouth

Posted on 10/02/2006 10:27:55 AM PDT by lowbridge

Posted by Brad Wilmouth on September 30, 2006 - 15:28.

During an interview aired Friday on CNBC's The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch, when asked by host Deutsch how he would go about fighting terrorism, CNN founder Ted Turner argued that "you don't win people over by bombing them, you win them over by being friends with them," and soon recommended giving Muslim extremists what they want as a solution to terrorism. Turner, who in 2002 claimed that Israelis were guilty of "terrorism" against the Palestinians, on Friday's show advocated "being more even-handed in our dealing with the Palestinians and the Israelis," negotiating peace in the Middle East "so we can stop at some point furnishing military aid to Israel," and "pulling our military forces out of the Middle East." Turner labelled these moves as "things that they've asked of us" and "things that the Muslim extremists and a lot of other Muslims, too, would like to see us do." (Transcript follows)

Turner was also asked by Deutsch about his recent suggestion that "men should be barred from holding public office for a hundred years," prompting Turner to speak approvingly of the possibility that, with women in control, "military budgets all over the place would be slashed maybe to nothing" in favor of more social spending, as he suggested this could be the only way to prevent nuclear war and global warming distasters: "I think if we don't do something like that, we're going to have a nuclear, full-scale nuclear war at some point, or with global climate change, we're going to turn the world into such a hot house it will be unfit for humans to live in. So we need to change the way we're doing things right away and give some new ideas a chance or we're sunk."

Early in the interview, Deutsch repeated Turner's recent statement that the Iraq invasion was "one of the dumbest moves" in history and wondered how Turner thought the $300 billion spent so far on the Iraq War might have been better spent to fight terrorism. Turner suggested using it to "try and improve the world" and to "give people hope."

Turner: "Well, I think, I think what we need to do is try and improve the world. The best way to stop terrorism is to give people hope for a better future. People don't blow themselves up if they think things are going to get better."

Turner also soon suggested that instead of bombing, which only "does a lot of damage and makes people angry," that the best way to win people over is "by being friends with them."

Turner: "I think the days of bombing to try and achieve any kind of objectives are behind us. All that bombs do is a lot of damage and make people angry, you know, you don't, you don't win people over by bombing them; you win them over by being friends with them."

Deutsch rephrased the question to shift the focus of the discussion away from Iraq to the general worldwide War on Terrorism, wondering how do you get along with the "fundamentalist faction" of the world's one billion Muslims. Turner voiced support for a troop withdrawal from the Middle East as the CNN founder said "I don't know why they're there in the first place," and suggested being "more even-handed in our dealing with the Palestinians and the Israelis."

Turner: "Well, I would give strong consideration to pulling our military forces out of the Middle East. I don't know why they're there in the first place. We have thousands of troops in Saudi Arabia. The things that they've asked of us, and I think we need to, we need to really make a real solid serious effort to concentrate on bringing peace to the Middle East as far as Israel and its neighbors are concerned so that we can stop at some point furnishing military aid to Israel. Those are, I think, the two things that the Muslim extremists and a lot of other Muslims, too, would like to see us do, is get our military out of the Middle East. I mean, we're, what are they there for, anyway? And also to be more even-handed in our dealing with the Palestinians and the Israelis."

Deutsch soon brought up Turner's recent suggestion that only women should be allowed to rule the world, an idea which the CNN founder had also discussed during his September 21 appearance on CBS's The Late Show with David Letterman. Turner again marveled at the possibility of "military budgets" being "slashed maybe to nothing" and the money spent on social programs because, unlike men, women "don't have as much testosterone" and "don't want to start wars all the time."

Turner: "Men can still be in education, they can have their businesses, they can do everything else, but if the big change that would occur if women were running the world on a daily basis instead of men, is the military budgets all over the place would be slashed maybe to nothing, and a lot more money would go into education, health care, family planning, the things that really matter because women don't have as much testosterone as men. I mean, they don't want to start wars all the time. Women really would rather have things be peaceful. ... And I think if we don't do something like that, we're going to have a nuclear, full-scale nuclear war at some point, or with global climate change, we're going to turn the world into such a hot house it will be unfit for humans to live in. So we need to change the way we're doing things right away and give some new ideas a chance or we're sunk."

Below is a transcript of relevant portions of the Friday September 29 The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch with critical portions in bold:

Donny Deutsch, at about 10:04 p.m.: "The war in Iraq, you said, quote, 'It will go down in history, is already being seen in history as one of the dumbest moves that was ever made by anybody.'"

Ted Turner: "Yup. I stand by that."

Deutsch: "I stand by that also."

Turner: "It's hard to believe."

Deutsch: "Okay. But it's easy to throw stones. I say to you now, sir, okay, instead of the $300 billion that Bush has spent in Iraq to fight terrorism, how, wind back the clock because that's the math he makes, that's the way we fight terrorism in Iraq."

Turner: "Fights Saddam Hussein."

Deutsch: "Yeah, but that's the math he makes. So intead of saying you were just wrong, you and I got that $300 billion to spend, to fight terrorism. How do you spend it?"

Turner: "Well, I think, I think what we need to do is try and improve the world. The best way to stop terrorism is to give people hope for a better future. People don't blow themselves up if they think things are going to get better."

Deutsch: "So let's say now, once again, you and I are business, we're co-CEOs of the United States of America right now, we've got $300 billion to spend to do that. Instead of bombing, what do we do?"

Turner: "It takes more than money; it takes good ideas that are implemented. I mean, we have to make some fundamental changes in the world, and they are based on information that we've just really gotten in the last few years. I think the days of bombing to try and achieve any kind of objectives are behind us. All that bombs do is a lot of damage and make people angry, you know, you don't, you don't win people over by bombing them; you win them over by being friends with them."

Deutsch: "That's great in theory."

Turner: "It works."

Deutsch: "In reality-"

Turner: "It worked for me."

Deutsch: "Okay, it worked for you-"

Turner: "Didn't work for George Bush. He was so busy bombing that he didn't get a chance to."

Deutsch: "But when you've got the enemy who flies planes into our buildings-"

Turner: "But there wasn't any Iraqis that did that. There was not a single Iraqi in the group."

Deutsch: "Take Iraq aside. We're fighting terrorism now. I agree going to Iraq is not the best way to fight terrorism, so I'm asking you now, sir, we've got hatred in the world, we've got, you know, right now we've got a world, we've got a billion Muslims. Obviously, it's only the fundamentalists that are problems."

At this point, Turner jumped in cross-talking with Deutsch, which led to Turner not hearing Deutsch specify that he was talking about how to fight Muslim fundamentalists.

Turner: "One billion, one hundred fifty million."

Deutsch: "What do we do to fight this new enemy? I'm putting you in charge."

Turner: "The Muslims?"

Deutsch: "No, the terrorists, the fundamentalists-"

Turner again interrupted Deutsch before he could finish specifying that he was talking about Muslim fundamentalists.

Turner: "Because the Muslims are just like us-"

Deutsch: "I know they are. But I'm just saying there is a fundamentalist faction, that we all know. What do we do with these terrorists? You are in charge. You are Mr. Anti-Terrorism now. We both agree Iraq was not the right way in. Obviously, Hussein had to go, certainly not, shouldn't be top of agenda. So what do we do?"

Turner: "Well, I would give strong consideration to pulling our military forces out of the Middle East. I don't know why they're there in the first place. We have thousands of troops in Saudi Arabia. The things that they've asked of us, and I think we need to, we need to really make a real solid serious effort to concentrate on bringing peace to the Middle East as far as Israel and its neighbors are concerned so that we can stop at some point furnishing military aid to Israel. Those are, I think, the two things that the Muslim extremists and a lot of other Muslims, too, would like to see us do, is get our military out of the Middle East. I mean, we're, what are they there for, anyway? And also to be more even-handed in our dealing with the Palestinians and the Israelis."

About 10:13 p.m., the discussion turned to Turner's idea to bar men from holding political office.

Deutsche: "I want to move to a less complicated subject, actually more complicated: Women. Quote, you've said, 'I've said for years and I'm really serious about it, I think men should be barred from holding public office for a hundred years. The men have been running the world for the last thousands of years and they've mucked it up something awful.' I built my business surrounding myself with women. I find women more superior to men in business-"

Turner: "The only area that I'm advocating this is in politics, that all elected offices for a hundred years, only women could run. Men can still be in education, they can have their businesses, they can do everything else, but if the big change that would occur if women were running the world on a daily basis instead of men, is the military budgets all over the place would be slashed maybe to nothing, and a lot more money would go into education, health care, family planning, the things that really matter because women don't have as much testosterone as men. I mean, they don't want to start wars all the time. Women really would rather have things be peaceful."

Deutsch: "I happen to think that's a great idea."

Turner: "And this one really could be done very quickly and very easily. All we have to do is change the laws, and in a hundred years then men can run again. And I think if we don't do something like that, we're going to have a nuclear, full-scale nuclear war at some point, or with global climate change, we're going to turn the world into such a hot house it will be unfit for humans to live in. So we need to change the way we're doing things right away and give some new ideas a chance or we're sunk."



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
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To: lowbridge
People don't blow themselves up if they think things are going to get better."

It don't get any better than 72 virgins, for eternity.......

81 posted on 10/02/2006 11:47:30 AM PDT by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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To: lowbridge

If this drip can make millions, what the hell is wrong with me?


82 posted on 10/02/2006 11:48:04 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: lowbridge

Ted Turner is pickled in booze and has the shrunken mental capacity to show for it. It's so irresponsible to publish his views on anything.


83 posted on 10/02/2006 12:02:49 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: lowbridge

Old ted will look silly in a Bhurka... but his ex hanoi-jane is looking like she could really use one these days!

How can a devout atheist like ted convert to islam? We know he could never live by that law. His haircut might just be a tad closer than he likes!

LLS


84 posted on 10/02/2006 12:06:42 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: lowbridge

Wow


85 posted on 10/02/2006 12:10:10 PM PDT by Vision ("As a man thinks...so is he." Proverbs 23:7)
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To: lowbridge

How about beginning with your head, Ted?


86 posted on 10/02/2006 12:11:54 PM PDT by Two-Bits (With Freedom you are allowed to be stupid - Ask any Liberal................)
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To: lowbridge

This guy is incredibly stupid. I just can't stomach him.


87 posted on 10/02/2006 12:16:34 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: lowbridge

How very ...French!


88 posted on 10/02/2006 12:16:45 PM PDT by Don Carlos (Me cache en los Moros. (Ancient Spanish curse))
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To: zek157

--He's more effetive talking--

An interesting new word. He's effete, for sure...


89 posted on 10/02/2006 12:17:03 PM PDT by rfp1234 (I've had it up to my keyster with these leaks!!! - - - Ronald Reagan)
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To: lowbridge

Turner's going to look real funny wearing a burka.

After all, Muslim extremists want all women wearing burkas, and anyone that would make a statement like Ted's is an old woman.


90 posted on 10/02/2006 12:18:39 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: lowbridge

For once, I agree with the former Mr. Hanoi Jane Fonda. Terrorists want us dead, so let's start a line to give them what they want ..... provided Ted and his former Mrs. are at the head of the line.


91 posted on 10/02/2006 12:18:44 PM PDT by DakotaRed (The legacy of the left, "Screw you, I got mine.")
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To: gridlock
Well, those Fundamentalist Christians are obviously going about it all wrong. Maybe if they started blowing up school buses and building nuclear bombs they could get on Ted Turner's good side.

The sad thing is that this is exactly the message they are sending.

92 posted on 10/02/2006 12:19:08 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Bobkk47
Ted Turner is the male version of Arianna Huffington

that's unfair: Arianna Huffington is merely stupid, not a victim of senile dementia...

93 posted on 10/02/2006 12:27:38 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Numbers Guy

When was he a conservative?


94 posted on 10/02/2006 12:29:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: lowbridge

Yes, Teddy. Give them what they want. They want you, and all of us, either dead or the same as dead. You . . forced to attend mosque five times a day, washing yourself numerous times according to certain RULES . . all your money divided up among the imams, the mahdis and the terrorists . . you, if you opened your big trap even once and it would be permanently shut for you. What they want, we don't have it to give to them, you don't have it to give to them. Their wants are as big as the gaping jaws of hell, their wants are capricious and insatiable . . they want your ex, Janie, draped from head to toe in a very ugly blue burka with just a netted eyeslit for an airhole, with her trap also shut and tripping clumsily over the pile of rubble and rocks that used to be your mansion . . and that's just for starters.


95 posted on 10/02/2006 12:50:19 PM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: lowbridge

The truth is that pulling all our troops out of the middle east and stopping support of Israel won't deter Islamic radicalism in the slightest. In fact if there was no Israel, you'd still have Islamic radicalism. Because Islam itself is inherently radical. There was no U.S. or Israel during the Dark and the Middle Ages. That didn't stop Islam from trying conquer Europe. The Islamicist fascists have nothing going for them except their desire to destroy the non-Muslim world. And they will not stop until they win or they are defeated.


96 posted on 10/02/2006 12:54:47 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7

There are separate intelligences. The ability to make money or be a scientist does not necessarily make one a genius in other matters. Albert Einstein praised socialism and said it was the future. Anybody can be an idiot on a particular subject. Turner proves that in spades.


97 posted on 10/02/2006 12:57:10 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: lowbridge
Ted Turner: Give Muslim Extremists What They Want to Stop Terrorism

And they say stupidity can't be transmitted by sex. Here's proof positive he got it from sleeping with Jane Fonda.

Regards, Ivan

98 posted on 10/02/2006 12:58:51 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Mordacious
I wonder what his Muslim name will be?

Muhammad al Coholic

99 posted on 10/02/2006 1:03:39 PM PDT by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7
Muhammad al Coholic

Now that's funny ....

100 posted on 10/02/2006 1:14:25 PM PDT by clamper1797 (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win)
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