Posted on 10/01/2006 10:00:04 PM PDT by LibWhacker
I no longer accept that we are only at war with Islamic fascists or Islamic Fundamentalists or whatever the heck were calling them this week. I believe that we in the West are at war with Islam, period.
I have heard any number of politicians, up to and including President Bush, claim, contrary to all reason and evidence, that Islam is a religion of peace. If you buy that load of malarkey, Ive got a Brooklyn mosque Id like to sell you.
This is the religion that was founded by the violence-prone Mohammed fourteen hundred years ago. It was he who established the practice of converting at the point of a sword; a short while ago, two journalists kidnapped by his followers were converted at the barrel of a gun. In 14 centuries, it seems only the technology has changed.
I have read that the current crop of terrorists and butchers only represent about ten percent of the worlds 1.2 billion Muslims. I dont know how they came by that figure, but that would still add up to 120 million cut-throats and fellow travelers. That figure is far greater than the number of Germans who were even alive when Hitler and his pagan hordes were marching across Europe, and far greater than the number of Russians who were Communist Party members during Stalins reign of terror.
I have heard well-meaning people claim that, however we might feel about Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and the various tyrants heading up Syria, Iran and the rest of the Middle East, our own American Muslims are a breed apart. Sorry, but I dont buy it. Were all aware that long after their co-religionists attacked the U.S.S. Cole, blew up our embassies and attacked a Marine base, and murdered 3,000 innocent people on 9/11, all in the name of Allah, these peace lovers were wiring contributions to our sworn enemies.
Moreover, we know that young American Muslims are not lining up to join our armed services and thus prove that their loyalty to this nation takes precedence over their religion.
In 1943, the 442nd Regimental Combat Team was formed. It consisted of young Japanese-American men. In spite of the fact that the Nisei faced widespread prejudice in America, and in spite of the fact that their own families had been imprisoned by the federal government at Manzanar and various other concentration camps, these volunteers became the most decorated combat unit of its size during World War II. It was thanks to their sacrificial efforts that over 200 members of the 36th Texas Division, the so-called Lost Division, were rescued from certain slaughter at the hands of the Germans. It was during this battle in Frances Vosges mountains that Second Lt. Daniel K. Inouye, later to be elected to the U.S. Senate, lost his right arm and earned the Congressional Medal of Honor. Astonishingly, his was only one of 21 such medals won by the relatively small group. The unit became legendary, known as the Go for Broke guys who fought for their country and their honor, collecting nearly 10,000 Purple Hearts and a nations gratitude along the way.
On the other hand, what do we hear from Americas Muslims? Silence when it comes to military service, bellyaching when it comes to ridiculous claims of racial profiling.
Quite honestly, I suspect that the only way we could get the Koran crowd to go fight in the Middle East is if the United States declared war on Israel!
One of two things is going to happen. Either the average muslim is going to attack these extremeists and stop their fanatical behavior, or, there will truely be another war between christians and muslims. There is no other possible outcome.
I for one am ready to obliterate them if it comes down to either them or us. I hope it never comes to that.
I am unwilling to support genocide as the solution to anything, as it includes the slaughter of the innocent alongside the guilty. It inhuman, and it reduces us below the level of any enemy we could hope to vanquish.
With good spies we should always be able to zero in on the worst imams, the worst mosques, and their congregations.
In time though, if we do that, the surviving imams and their replacements will simply go underground.
But it'll be much harder for their congregations to do so, and they will remain exquisitely vulnerable.
But here I am once again advocating for something perilously close to genocide, which I desperately want to avoid. So that brings me back to prayer.
"Those who oppose the mullahs oppose Islam itself; eliminate the mullahs and Islam shall disappear in fifty years. It is only the mullahs who can bring the people into the streets and make them die for Islam-- begging to have their blood shed for Islam." -Ayatollah KhomeiniVery revealing, eh? How can we eliminate the mullahs without driving them underground, where they'll continue their fiery BS? That's what we have to figure out. Perhaps somehow by "educating" the bulk of the islamic world to ignore crazy mullahs??? But how? Dubya may very well be right; bring them democracy and liberty and they'll turn their backs on the mad mullahs all by themselves without any further prodding from us.
Which is almost exactly what Brad Cloven said in #6. Thanks, Brad!
the lib/dems can condone and appease the muzzies anyway they want...the answer is it is a death cult that is intent on world domination....there is no such thing as the religion of piece...it is all about D&D ...death & destruction...the pope quoting the 14th century emperor was correct...the muzzies bring nothing positive to the world table only death & destruction!
The five pillars of Islam..... murder, bestiality, terrorism, cowardice and abuse of women and children.
Know islam, no peace; No islam, know peace
If the Arabs put down their guns, there would be no more violence.
If the Israelis put down their guns, there would be no more Israel.
Koran 8:12,13 says: "Strike off their heads. Strike off their fingertips... because they defied 'God' and 'his apostle'" (quotes mine)
Koran 9:23: "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you".
Islam is a Satanic mechanism to stir up trouble where there's peace.
Even if they commit genocide against you?
Get real. Muuuuhamhead (Pigs be inseminating her) commands them to commit genocide. Well at least to the men, the women he commands rape, and enslavement. Oh yeah rape and enslavement of the children as well.
Still think "genocide" against this scum puts us beneath them? Think again!
Telling them apart is half the problem.
Good thread. BTTT.
A good Indian friend points out that India has a huge Muslim population that is much less militant, usually because they are spending so much energy making money.
The Indians are also lucky in having the Sikhs to keep a very distrusting eye on Mo's mad followers
This is a good point about the terrorists comprising 10% of the world's Muslims. How are we supposed to sort out the 120 million dangerous Muslims from the other supposedly peaceful Muslims? Until and unless that silent majority steps up to the plate and forces the other 10% to change, we have no choice but to treat all Muslims as potential enemies.
Look out now...Burt really stepped into it this time!!!
The only problem is I wish I could step into it too!
They'll be rioting in the streets with all the "Death to America! Death to Israel!" chanting and general blah blah blah...To keep it interesting, you'd think the pontificators would come up with new and original chants or something to keep us wired into their 15 minutes of fame...They really are begining to bore me now...
I've been looking for ways to offend, but I guess I am just not as polished or published enough...Dirnit!
well, then be willing to acceph dhimmitude, at least for your descendants.
Unfortunately You are very much on point. One variation That could come into play if we had the political will would be to become energy independent by opening up our petroleum producing regions and continuing to develop other energy resources. This would reduce the flow of currency to the worst offenders causing them to replace their income by becoming productive. That would take spare time off their hands that they now use for their evil purposes. I don't think we realize what changes are being forced on Philistine because we have reduced their welfare payments. They might be moving toward a productive nation in order to eat.
Perhaps we should start by only killing those moslims who would kill us......that might not be all of them, but again it might well be.
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