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| 10/2/06
| Burt Prelutsky
Posted on 10/01/2006 10:00:04 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Sign me up LibWhacker. I'm with you on this. All Islam has been united under the OIC, and they are bringing war upon everything not Islamic with a very broad battle plan employing warfare, terrorism, diplomacy, economics, and any other means they can employ. It's not so much that we are at war with Islam, but we should be because all of Islam is at war with us.
Too many people will try to dispel this notion by pointing to Muslims apparently living in peace. They either do not know, or have forgotten, that neither was every German citizen in uniform during WWII. Many lived a peaceful life, but their pacifism did not alter the fact that their nation, Germany was at war with us, just as Islam is at war with us now. The Muslim terrorists, militants, and street thugs are their shock troops.
To: backtothestreets
One of two things is going to happen. Either the average muslim is going to attack these extremeists and stop their fanatical behavior, or, there will truely be another war between christians and muslims. There is no other possible outcome.
I for one am ready to obliterate them if it comes down to either them or us. I hope it never comes to that.
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posted on
10/01/2006 11:45:19 PM PDT
by
CCGuy
To: GSlob
I am unwilling to support genocide as the solution to anything, as it includes the slaughter of the innocent alongside the guilty. It inhuman, and it reduces us below the level of any enemy we could hope to vanquish.
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posted on
10/01/2006 11:52:51 PM PDT
by
mysterio
To: grey_whiskers
Excellent! I've always felt that some combination of killing off their rabid leadership and going after civilian pockets of fanatical support was perhaps the way to go, though many innocents would die (and I am VERY much concerned about not having to worry about that on Judgment Day).
With good spies we should always be able to zero in on the worst imams, the worst mosques, and their congregations.
In time though, if we do that, the surviving imams and their replacements will simply go underground.
But it'll be much harder for their congregations to do so, and they will remain exquisitely vulnerable.
But here I am once again advocating for something perilously close to genocide, which I desperately want to avoid. So that brings me back to prayer.
"Those who oppose the mullahs oppose Islam itself; eliminate the mullahs and Islam shall disappear in fifty years. It is only the mullahs who can bring the people into the streets and make them die for Islam-- begging to have their blood shed for Islam." -Ayatollah Khomeini
Very revealing, eh? How can we eliminate the mullahs without driving them underground, where they'll continue their fiery BS? That's what we have to figure out. Perhaps somehow by "educating" the bulk of the islamic world to ignore crazy mullahs??? But how? Dubya may very well be right; bring them democracy and liberty and they'll turn their backs on the mad mullahs all by themselves without any further prodding from us.
To: LibWhacker; grey_whiskers; Brad Cloven
Which is almost exactly what Brad Cloven said in #6. Thanks, Brad!
To: CCGuy
I agree except with one point. It will not be Christian versus Muslim. It is Islam against everyone not Muslim. That includes Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, and whatever other religions one might want to add, and includes atheists and agnostics too whether they like it or not. All are in the line of fire of Islam.
Another FReeper, Steel Wolf, was kind enough to help me understand why Muslims do not rise to the occasion and stop Muslim violence toward non-Muslims. Here's what he wrote:
"Under Islam, apostates may be killed, even if they are nominally Muslim. Good Muslims are not supposed to kill other good Muslims under any circumstance.
That said,
What we would call a 'moderate Muslim' is an apostate. Rejecting jihad, living peacefully with your infidel neighbors and friends, pretty much anything that's not fundamentalist Islam, can be construed to be apostasy. That means that under Islam, it's more permissable for Bin Laden to kill American Muslims than it would be for them to kill him."
Something that should be used is conversion of Muslims in western nations. The Koran is loaded with accurate timelines and genealogical records taken from the Torah and Bible. Showing the Koran as a work of plagiarism must be strongly emphasized. The truth may hurt, but it doesn't hurt anywhere near as much as what I envision for those that remain Muslim.
To: backtothestreets
the lib/dems can condone and appease the muzzies anyway they want...the answer is it is a death cult that is intent on world domination....there is no such thing as the religion of piece...it is all about D&D ...death & destruction...the pope quoting the 14th century emperor was correct...the muzzies bring nothing positive to the world table only death & destruction!
The five pillars of Islam..... murder, bestiality, terrorism, cowardice and abuse of women and children.
Know islam, no peace; No islam, know peace
If the Arabs put down their guns, there would be no more violence.
If the Israelis put down their guns, there would be no more Israel.
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posted on
10/02/2006 3:35:12 AM PDT
by
hnj_00
To: LibWhacker
Koran 8:12,13 says: "Strike off their heads. Strike off their fingertips... because they defied 'God' and 'his apostle'" (quotes mine)
Koran 9:23: "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you".
Islam is a Satanic mechanism to stir up trouble where there's peace.
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posted on
10/02/2006 4:36:15 AM PDT
by
RoadTest
( Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. -2 Tim. 3:12)
To: mysterio
>"it reduces us below the level of any enemy we could hope to vanquish."Even if they commit genocide against you?
Get real. Muuuuhamhead (Pigs be inseminating her) commands them to commit genocide. Well at least to the men, the women he commands rape, and enslavement. Oh yeah rape and enslavement of the children as well.
Still think "genocide" against this scum puts us beneath them? Think again!
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posted on
10/02/2006 4:51:52 AM PDT
by
rawcatslyentist
(Never hurl the letter Q into a privet bush)
To: LibWhacker
Jihad This!
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posted on
10/02/2006 4:54:52 AM PDT
by
Hatteras
To: mysterio
"Killing terrorists is one thing, but killing every muslim worldwide is something entirely different."Telling them apart is half the problem.
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posted on
10/02/2006 4:59:08 AM PDT
by
WorkerbeeCitizen
(Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade)
To: LibWhacker; All
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posted on
10/02/2006 5:01:32 AM PDT
by
PGalt
To: Brad Cloven
A good Indian friend points out that India has a huge Muslim population that is much less militant, usually because they are spending so much energy making money.
The Indians are also lucky in having the Sikhs to keep a very distrusting eye on Mo's mad followers
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posted on
10/02/2006 5:01:40 AM PDT
by
crazycat
To: LibWhacker
This is a good point about the terrorists comprising 10% of the world's Muslims. How are we supposed to sort out the 120 million dangerous Muslims from the other supposedly peaceful Muslims? Until and unless that silent majority steps up to the plate and forces the other 10% to change, we have no choice but to treat all Muslims as potential enemies.
To: GSlob
I disagree. The problem with Islam is not a genetic one with it's proponents, it's a problem of culture. Unfortunately, the culture of Islam has put in place a number of self referential incentives, a friend calls these "negative feedback loops". These can be terminated, but it will take one of two things:
1. A slow and constant pressure on their system for a period of years, maybe MANY years, but over time, their systems will change.
2. A MASSIVE shock to their culture and value system which causes them to reexamine everything about their culture and lifestyles.
The scenario I see playing out is that some nutjob gets a bomb from Iran or Pakistan, and they bomb a western city. (I'm hoping for LA because of the sociological impact and frankly because I don't live there. It's also fairly easy to get a bomb into the port of Long Beach without having to worry about passing Suez or Panama.) Once that happens we respond by reducing the non oil generating population centers of the Arab world to glass...then the people who are left decide to sincerely "rethink Islam".
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posted on
10/02/2006 5:12:06 AM PDT
by
tcostell
(MOLON LABE)
To: Sundog; Eaker; humblegunner; TheMom; thackney; pax_et_bonum; Allegra; Xenalyte; dasher; ...
Look out now...Burt really stepped into it this time!!!
The only problem is I wish I could step into it too!
They'll be rioting in the streets with all the "Death to America! Death to Israel!" chanting and general blah blah blah...To keep it interesting, you'd think the pontificators would come up with new and original chants or something to keep us wired into their 15 minutes of fame...They really are begining to bore me now...
I've been looking for ways to offend, but I guess I am just not as polished or published enough...Dirnit!
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posted on
10/02/2006 5:34:41 AM PDT
by
stevie_d_64
(Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
To: mysterio
well, then be willing to acceph dhimmitude, at least for your descendants.
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posted on
10/02/2006 5:51:54 AM PDT
by
GSlob
To: tcostell
The scenario I see playing out is that some nutjob gets a bomb from Iran or Pakistan, and they bomb a western city. (I'm hoping for LA because of the sociological impact and frankly because I don't live there. It's also fairly easy to get a bomb into the port of Long Beach without having to worry about passing Suez or Panama.) Once that happens we respond by reducing the non oil generating population centers of the Arab world to glass...then the people who are left decide to sincerely "rethink Islam". Unfortunately You are very much on point. One variation That could come into play if we had the political will would be to become energy independent by opening up our petroleum producing regions and continuing to develop other energy resources. This would reduce the flow of currency to the worst offenders causing them to replace their income by becoming productive. That would take spare time off their hands that they now use for their evil purposes. I don't think we realize what changes are being forced on Philistine because we have reduced their welfare payments. They might be moving toward a productive nation in order to eat.
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posted on
10/02/2006 5:54:28 AM PDT
by
River_Wrangler
(Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
To: mysterio
Perhaps we should start by only killing those moslims who would kill us......that might not be all of them, but again it might well be.
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posted on
10/02/2006 5:55:00 AM PDT
by
newcthem
(Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
To: River_Wrangler
Opps. Philistine = Palestine Not enough coffee.
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posted on
10/02/2006 5:56:29 AM PDT
by
River_Wrangler
(Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
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