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Accused Burglar Sues Homeowner Who Shot Him
The Milwaukee Journal ^ | 10/01/06

Posted on 10/01/2006 9:28:04 PM PDT by baldeagle390

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To: Myrddin

I wonder if there is an insurance policy that would cover that specifically. I doubt it, but if it was setup right, the premiums would be low. I think the NRA offers something along these lines?


81 posted on 10/02/2006 7:50:12 AM PDT by Freedom4US (u)
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To: LibWhacker
And never, ever call the police afterward.

That turns it from justifiable homicide into murder/manslaughter.

82 posted on 10/02/2006 8:27:53 AM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: sailor4321
You are going to be arrested if you shoot somebody, even if the guy is toting a machine gun. No matter what you say, you will be arrested.

Not in Texas thank God.

83 posted on 10/02/2006 8:51:28 AM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: blam

One shot, one kill.

Three shots, no lawsuit.


84 posted on 10/02/2006 8:53:50 AM PDT by Tenyaka
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To: BlackVeil

I believe that a similar case happened in the mid-west (Kansas) where a farmer had shot a perp that entered his house. The perp sued and the farmer lost his farm.


85 posted on 10/02/2006 9:17:21 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: Redleg Duke
set up a spring-gun

It could have got a cop or fireman. There is a long history of "Man Traps" being a big time no-no

86 posted on 10/02/2006 9:21:16 AM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: baldeagle390
The Milwaukee County suit claims Rainiero used excessive force to deal with the intruding plaintiff and alleges severe and permanent injuries, relentless pain, and loss of earning capacity.

He suing because he can't burgle any more?

87 posted on 10/02/2006 9:23:51 AM PDT by steve-b (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.)
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To: Freedom4US
NRA offers a policy to cover your firearms. I don't know if they have legal coverage if you have to use them. It would certainly be a good idea.

Walt Rauch wrote an interesting book titled, Real World Survival, What has worked for me. Lots of good, practical advice.

88 posted on 10/02/2006 10:15:40 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: baldeagle390

Moral #1: Finish what you start
Moral #2: Have a big enough gun


89 posted on 10/02/2006 11:59:47 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: LibWhacker
And never, ever call the police afterward.

Why not? There's a dead body in your house, lots of blood, and you've legally and legitimately made it dead. If you don't call the cops and attempt a private disposal, all it does is raise unnecessary questions about the legitimacy of the shooting. The best thing to do is call your lawyer and then call the cops. That way you've got legal protection when you most need it and you've not done something silly that could raise questions about the legality of the shooting. I've lived here in the Knoxville, TN for about the last 19 years, there have been a number of such legal and legitimate shootings, and I don't know of one that's resulted in the shooter being prosecuted. Equally important, the fact that you called the cops can be used as evidence of your good faith in a subsequent civil case like this.

90 posted on 10/02/2006 12:25:51 PM PDT by libstripper (!!)
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To: Blue Jays

Your point is well taken. However, I would assume that the homeowner knows the inside of his castle better than the intruder. Secondly, since the homeowner was awakened, he probably has a good idea where the sound came from. That being said, the home owner could lie wait to ambush the intruder. Now, lets deepen the scenario. What if there were other household members that just got up to get a glass of milk, midnight snack, etc. unbeknownst to the homeowner. Does the homeowner shout out and summon up a challenge as to "who goes there" and give away his position? Or does the homeowner fire in the dark?

My original statement regarding racking one into the pipe sends a strong signal to the perp that you are armed and probably the second sound the perp hears is the gun being fired. Also, if the person walking around your home happens to be a family member other than your wife, you have probably just avoided a nasty accident.

To come upon an intruder in your home is dangerous enough especially when the perp thinks you will not respond. But to lay in wait quietly, a blood thirsty lawyer may consider that your actions were premeditaed.


91 posted on 10/02/2006 6:55:05 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: xrp
magazine, not a clip

It depends... I use these

Mark

92 posted on 10/02/2006 7:03:09 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: kcvl
Wisconsin law doesn't allow people to use deadly force to defend property, and offers Dr Rainiero no protection from a civil lawsuit.

The proper couse of action in Wisconsin would have been to collect up his wife and children, beg the burgler not to hurt them, then immediately exit their home, go to a neighbor's home, and call the police.

Mark

93 posted on 10/02/2006 7:07:36 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: baldeagle390

English Rule!!!! Make the plaintiff's attorney pay!!!


94 posted on 10/02/2006 7:07:56 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The hallmark of a crackpot conspiracy theory is that it expands to include countervailing evidence.)
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To: baldeagle390

Since the perp says he was shot in the back I was tempted to make a wisecrack about the MD being a proctologi-something but I looked it up and he is a general surgeon, so I guess that sews that up.


95 posted on 10/02/2006 7:14:38 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: blam

"Empty the clip."

At which point his "grieving" relatives will crawl out of the woodwork like cockroaches and sue for using "excess force"

I think the castle doctrine is the only hope.

That or emptying clips in all the lawers.





96 posted on 10/02/2006 7:16:23 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: MarkL

97 posted on 10/02/2006 8:08:44 PM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: blam
In New Mexico, it's easier to prove self defense if you empty the magazine into the guy--it shows the dopey jury that you were scared and reacting to a threat.

One well-placed shot in the 'ten ring' and the prosecutor will convince the jury you are a cold-blooded, trained killer lying in wait in your home to kill some unfortunate soul.

1) Empty the magazine into the perp--even after he falls down--hey, you were scared and 'just kept pulling the trigger'.

2) Call the cops.

3) Make no statement and get a lawyer.

4) Never, ever say you are sorry or "regret the killing"--the prosecutor will use that statement to show you regret it and didn't really have to shoot the perp.

5) Buy a new gun, yours is now in police evidence and it will be years before you see it again.

98 posted on 10/02/2006 8:19:44 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
"5) Buy a new gun, yours is now in police evidence and it will be years before you see it again."

I don't know anyone who has just one gun.

A friend of mine said if you know how many guns you have, you don't have enough.

BLOAT

99 posted on 10/02/2006 8:36:10 PM PDT by blam
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To: baldeagle390

"Accused Burglar Sues Homeowner Who Shot Him"


Showing that the homeowner needs more range time. If he'd have been a better shot, he wouldn't be getting sued right now.


100 posted on 10/02/2006 8:39:13 PM PDT by BLS (It's time to redefine your deiphobic mind.)
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