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Accused Burglar Sues Homeowner Who Shot Him
The Milwaukee Journal ^ | 10/01/06

Posted on 10/01/2006 9:28:04 PM PDT by baldeagle390

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To: CMS
This is why you use a shotgun and shoot to kill if someone breaks into your house.

Amen, Bro!  Even though I have rifles and pistols, my bedside buddy is my .410 "snake charmer" loaded with 3" shells with #2 shot.  I don't plan to scare or wound them...I plan to kill them with a single shot to center chest.  It's awful hard for medical staff to stitch up hamburger meat. 

61 posted on 10/02/2006 5:17:54 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: Disambiguator
"Not really. If the perp was killed, it's likely his family would file civil suit."

Especially if he emptied the magazine and all the bullets entered the back of the perp.

62 posted on 10/02/2006 5:19:47 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: kcvl
Kurt E. Prochaska, a Janesville man tore an exhaust fan off the roof of Dr Michael Rainiero's home.

In no way do I mean to sound sympathetic to the perp but if he dropped down thru a hole in the roof he very well may have not been able to leave.
Stuck between a high hole and hot lead.
63 posted on 10/02/2006 5:44:32 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: Walkingfeather
And put a knife in his hand....

You better expand on that....If for, gawd sake, you have to shoot someone and they don't have a gun, have throw away/sell all your kitchen knives that DONT match and go to some obscure garage sale and pick up an old nasty knife (big and rusty) as a drop knife. Bottom line is make damn sure that the knife you place to protect your livelihood from law suits does not match anything (even close) in your home.

A sharpened old screwdriver works great also ;)

64 posted on 10/02/2006 5:57:24 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ( Arm the Pilots. Arm the (willing) Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.)
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To: baldeagle390

Would never happen in Texas.


65 posted on 10/02/2006 5:59:26 AM PDT by DaGman
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To: Dosa26
I've got an 870 full of 00 buck, but I might have to put a couple of slugs in the bottom of the magazine.

I agree with you. 00 Buck is only if the perp is behind a car door ;p. I have done ballistics test and for the HOME, #4 buck shot is the penultimate soft kill round. If the perp is wearing LIGHT body armor or is in VERY VERY heavy winter wool and leather multiple-layered clothing, 00 Buck shot MIGHT be appropriate. As you do, I have x4 rounds of #4 buck, and x2 rounds of #0 buck....x3 00 and x3 slug are in the side saddle.

"A shotgun is an excellent home defense weapon. You can usually get a perps attention with the sound of a slide jacking a shell into the pipe."

True and FALSE. A shotgun is the best mankiller under 50 yards, bar none with the appropriate ammunition, however, comma, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER EVER jack a shell into the pipe when you think you have an intruder. Jacking a shell into the slide under duress or in the dark can 1) jam your firearm or misload/eject it and 2) let the enemy know where you are. The first sound an intruder should here is BANG (after you have identified it as non-family/friend/ or drunk/retarded neighbor)!

66 posted on 10/02/2006 6:13:29 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ( Arm the Pilots. Arm the (willing) Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Especially if he emptied the magazine and all the bullets entered the back of the perp.

Actually, that fact might land you in prison.

67 posted on 10/02/2006 6:15:15 AM PDT by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: Blue Jays

That's kinda hard to do too. I'm not even sure how I'd quietly load a pump-action shotgun even if I put a shell directly into the pipe so I'd only have to move the action in one direction. Which explains the .357 revolver in my night stand.


68 posted on 10/02/2006 6:31:28 AM PDT by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: baldeagle390
INSIDE his house? Double tap center mass. One follow up to the head.

Why is this lawsuit even being allowed by the judge? Toss it out. With prejudice. If not, impeach the judge.

69 posted on 10/02/2006 6:37:43 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: Doohickey
Hi Doohickey-

It won't be silent, but loading a shotgun also doesn't need to be done shuck-SHUCK in Hollywood-style drama. Your .357 Magnum revolver is similarly a great choice for home protection.

~ Blue Jays ~

70 posted on 10/02/2006 6:47:34 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Truth29
"Alternate reality version: The victim wigs out from mental anguish, shoots and kills the shyster lawyer, the crook's sleazy wife, and finishes the job on the burglar. He is then tried and acquitted by reason of temporary insanity and his expenses are paid by the state victim compensation fund."

Or victims wife goes to psychologist who certifies she has experienced a mental breakdown due to the actions of burglar, his wife, and his lawyer, and victim and wife counter sue all of the above for millions due to mental anguish, loss of earnings, etc. etc. etc. Simply including the perps lawyer in the suit might make the original lawsuit go away.
71 posted on 10/02/2006 6:54:45 AM PDT by monday
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To: blam
I just learned a lesson. Empty the clip.

That's the same conclusion I had.

72 posted on 10/02/2006 6:57:22 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: baldeagle390

This is type of BS is old news.

He is a jailhouse lawyer. Their should be explicit immunity and a prohibition of attorney fees for the convicted.


73 posted on 10/02/2006 6:59:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NY Attitude
You can usually get a perps attention with the sound of a slide jacking a shell into the pipe.

I love that sound - definitely in my Top Ten Sounds.

74 posted on 10/02/2006 7:03:28 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Doohickey

"Which explains the .357 revolver in my night stand."

Thats what I have too. 357 S&W with hollow points. I really don't plan on there being any survivors if someone breaks into my house while I am there. Between the gun and the dogs, it should be enough.


75 posted on 10/02/2006 7:06:42 AM PDT by monday
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To: blam

Exactly. My daddy always told me to "never leave 'em breathing" if an intruder were to think about attempting to force himself into our home.


76 posted on 10/02/2006 7:14:49 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Redleg Duke

Booby traps like spring guns are specifically illegal in Wisconsin.

It is an entirely different circumstance.

Even in Milwaukee county, this guy will get laughed out of court.


77 posted on 10/02/2006 7:15:56 AM PDT by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: eastforker

You can be sued in any state. And what you say to the cops will be available to the perp's attorney in any state. So, the wisest course is to insure your attorney helps you in terms of what you say.


78 posted on 10/02/2006 7:26:07 AM PDT by sailor4321
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To: Blue Jays

Reminds me of "Heartbreak Ridge": "That is the sound of the AK-47 assault rifle, the preferred weapon of the enemy. It makes a distinctive sound when fired."


79 posted on 10/02/2006 7:42:41 AM PDT by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: libstripper

This says all of us need to review our homeowners' insurance policies carefully...


Excellent suggestion. For those with insurance policies that don't cover self-defense shootings, the NRA Endorsed Insurance Programs offer Self-Defense Coverage and Excess Personal Liability.

80 posted on 10/02/2006 7:47:24 AM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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