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Democrat leaders knew drunken Kennedy drove off bridge, left girl to die, and paid off family
ytedk.com ^ | 101-06 | ytedk, comments by dfu

Posted on 10/01/2006 7:03:57 PM PDT by doug from upland

NOTE: Mark Foley should have resigned earlier and should be prosecuted to the full extend of the law.

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GREAT BACKGROUND IS HERE

- Farrar thrust himself through the open window and into the car. Looking up, he found the body of a young woman. Her head was cocked back, her face pressed into the footwell. Both hands gripped the front edge of the back seat to hold herself in conformity with its upholstered contours. It was not the position assumed by a person knocked unconscious by the impact of a crash, Farrar said. "If she had been dead or unconscious, she would have been prone, sinking to the bottom or floating on top. She definitely was holding herself in a position to avail herself of the last remaining air that had to be trapped in the car." - Farrar took hold of the woman's thigh, and as soon as he touched the body he knew she was dead; the flesh in his hand was hard as wood. "Instead of life-saving, I realized I was now evidence-gathering," Farrar said. "Because I was the only person who would be able to observe this situation, it behooved me to pay attention to what I saw underwater to be able to report it."

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In the furor over the disgraced GOP congressman Mark Foley, let's go back in time, shall we? Don't you just love the headline that GOP leaders knew of some Foley email in late 2005?

It was July 19, 1969 when the drunken Ted Kennedy, possessing no current drivers license, drove his Oldsmobile off the bridge, ran away like a coward, and left Mary Jo Kopechne to suffocate when the oxygen ran out in her air pocket.

The Democrat leaders at the time were Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield of Montana and Speaker of the House John McCormack of Boston, Mass.

There is no doubt they knew what happened. We didn't have email in those days. Kennedy did not send an email to Mary Jo. He killed her. He did no jail time. There was a coverup. He paid off the family.

Republican Mark Foley is gone, albeit not quickly enough, because our side won't stand for that kind of behavior. The Democrats, on the other hand, have allowed a killer to remain as a leading senator for over 40 years.

The smartest thing Foley could have done was to immediately switch parties. The gay fascists would have defended him and called this drama a witch hunt. He could have probably even stayed in office if he drove a page off a bridge and kept his body and $90,000 bribe money in his freezer.

Just as we watched the drunken failed lifeguard killer lead the way on complaints of waterboarding, it would be so fitting for Barney Frank to lead an investigation of Foley's activities. Maybe Nancy Pelosi could lead an investigation of plastic surgeons who ruin their patients' faces.


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KEYWORDS: democrats; dnc; kennedy; killer; liberals; lifeguard; maryjo; olds
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To: doug from upland

Thanks for the history of this jerk, but as in the past,like Studds, he'll be there til he decides to retire.....or maybe til he drives off a bridge again and doesn't get out?


101 posted on 10/02/2006 6:19:21 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: doug from upland

kENNEDY SHOULD HAVE SERVED JAIL TIME FOR MANSLAUGHTER. aNYONE ELSE WHO COMMITTED THIS CRIME WOULD HAVE.


102 posted on 10/02/2006 6:22:26 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: doug from upland
I'm afraid logic is not going to be applied in this case.

Carolyn

103 posted on 10/02/2006 6:22:51 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Fawn

The NYet Times got over 30 days of daily front page coverage out of Abu Ghraib.

Former Pages Describe Foley as Caring Ally
By RACHEL L. SWARNS
Former pages recalled Representative Mark Foley as friendly, but two said they became aware that he might have a darker side.

F.B.I. Makes Inquiry Into E-Mails Ramifications: Legal | Political
Foley Reportedly Checks Into Clinic for Alcoholism 9:09 AM ET

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Deeper in the same edition are:
Laws Involving Contact With Minors Allow Prosecutors a Broad Range of Discretion

"Though the messages made public to date stopped short of soliciting sex or proposing an assignation, some were quite graphic and asked for descriptions of intimate actions. Several states, including Florida, have laws that make it a crime to transmit communication harmful to minors over the Internet."

HBO's Real Sex and MTV's programming both are harmful to minors. Any calls to reel them in are met with censorship cries. When someone can say something to someone else in person or by phone but not over the internet, there is a different standard being applied because of the medium of the conversation.

"And Mr. Foley is not the only person who could possibly face prosecution, Professor Berman said. “If there were people who knew about him or protected him,” he said, “some sort of complicity or conspiracy charge is certainly viable.”" <--- That's the rub. It isn't about taking out Foley or seeing him prosecuted. It is about using this as a muguffin to go after GOP leadership.


104 posted on 10/02/2006 6:30:02 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: napscoordinator
No you are right. This is the most ridiculous attempt at making the dems look bad I have witnessed. I know we can do better than this!
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This is how my piece began. There is no defense of Foley: NOTE: Mark Foley should have resigned earlier and should be prosecuted to the full extend(sp) of the law.

If the most ridiculous attempt at making the dems look bad that you have witnessed is the spotlight on a man who killed a woman, got away with it, and led the fight against "water torture," you have indeed led a sheltered life. Sorry, but your statement is simply foolish. Let's see your attempt. Do you have a better one than killing a young woman, doing no jail time, keeping your prestigious public job for four decades, being a leader of the party, and never paying any price? I can't wait to hear it. The only thing that comes close is KKK Byrd, but I don't think there is a verified record of him killing anyone.

105 posted on 10/02/2006 6:37:31 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

Can't we discuss ANYTHING without using the caveat, "I am not a communist but ..."

I mean, "I don't support Foley's actions, but..."


106 posted on 10/02/2006 6:47:48 AM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: doug from upland

What proof do you have that this was a murder? You don't! The police investigated the incident and found nothing there. Believe me if there was a murder he would have had trial and had to state his case. Where are you from anyway?


107 posted on 10/02/2006 6:52:52 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: altura

I mean, "I don't support Foley's actions, but..."




Show me where I said that. Please go read, perhaps for the first time, the very first sentence in this post.


108 posted on 10/02/2006 7:04:53 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: napscoordinator

What proof do you have that this was a murder? You don't!




Come on. Not only did you fail to pay attention to my very first sentence, you paid no attention to the response to you. You inserted the word "murder" when I used the word "killed." Why did you do that? I try very hard to be precise, and I have never accused him of murder. If you have never really studied the issue, go check out ytedk.com.

Don't you find it even slightly ironic that Foley resigned and the GOP has turned this over to the the AG, while the other party is led by a man who allowed a girl to die in six feet of water while trapped in an air pocket? Had he gotten help instead of waiting nine hours to report it, she would likely not have died. And this same guy was the point man on "water torture."

I am from Upland, hence the screen name.

By the way, thank you very much for your service to our country.


109 posted on 10/02/2006 7:16:24 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: weegee

>What are the ethical standards for a homosexual politician?<

For one, to have boyfriends who are of age.


110 posted on 10/02/2006 8:13:38 AM PDT by Darnright (http://media.putfile.com/Webb-on-Allen)
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To: doug from upland

No, you totally misunderstood my comment. I saw your first disclaimer.

I was responding to everyone who reads your Ted stuff and says, yeah, but that doesn't excuse Foley.

I shouldn't admit this, but I have a faint memory of the McCarthy era wherein one could not defend anyone who was defamed by Joe without first inserting the phrase, "I am not a communist but ..."

I was a dem in those days (in my crib) but I have this memory.


111 posted on 10/02/2006 8:16:56 AM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: Darnright

16 IS of age in DC.


112 posted on 10/02/2006 8:24:38 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: altura

Okay, I understand.


113 posted on 10/02/2006 8:25:48 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: trimom

Ditto. I don't think references to 40 year old crimes is going to help the GOP in this case.


114 posted on 10/02/2006 8:26:48 AM PDT by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: weegee

>16 IS of age in DC.<

That's pathetic. So a 60 year old man can hit on a 16 year old girl in DC. I guess this is one of Marion Barry's legacies.


115 posted on 10/02/2006 9:05:57 AM PDT by Darnright (http://media.putfile.com/Webb-on-Allen)
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