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To: callmejoe

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5:20

{He is the one who has let free the two bodies of flowing water, one sweet and palatable, and the other salty and bitter. And He has made between them a barrier and a forbidding partition.} (Qur'an 25:53)

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I did know about the cyanide in 1993, but you're right, not many people are aware of that fact.

I do wonder now, if there are other instances in their messages where they've quoted each other verbatim.

I remember pausing reading that line when UBL's tape came out. Now add "Manhattan" and the mysterious sweet odor that still wafts through the city on occasion. By now, the people of Manhattan are used to the sweet scent, probably not even calling it in to law enforcement anymore.

While looking up "sweet" "bitter" and UBL, I ran across Bin Laden and his honey enterprise. Something I hadn't known. Sharing it here in case others aren't aware of it either:

Bitter uses of honey in Bin Laden's network
http://www.google.com/search?q=sweet+bitter+zawahri&hl=en&lr=&start=20&sa=N

>>>And if the "Dragonfire" stories of October/November 2001 were even close to reality, they will pursue that avenue of attack once again.

Yes, they will try. Probably from the water.


224 posted on 10/03/2006 9:05:04 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

"{He is the one who has let free the two bodies of flowing water, one sweet and palatable, and the other salty and bitter. And He has made between them a barrier and a forbidding partition.} (Qur'an 25:53)"

Interesting that the bitter/sweet allusion you found is juxtaposed to "water". Another translation of that verse starts by saying: "It was He who sent the two seas rolling . . ."


"the water"/"the sea"

The 1/19 (9/11 "re-versed") UBL tape that also talks about being "trapped" in that passage about the "butcher of Vietnam" also calls Bush "the butcher of Washington", which to me, signaled DC as a/the prime target. From their perspective, it probably gnaws on them every day seeing the White House and Congress still there, just like it probably ate at them for eight years every time they saw video of the NYC skyline with the WTC still standing. The "sweet vs bitter" allusion may not only be significant in and of itself, but in its surrounding context in both tapes.

This was something *very* interesting on your google link (and there were also some similarities in language between the UBL/Zawahiri tapes and Ahmadinejad's speeches earlier this year). And when you think about it, that makes absolute sense.

http://www.gopvideo.com/mahmoud_ahmadinejad_un_speech_09192006.html

Full Text, Speech of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iran, 61st General Assembly United Nations 9/19/2006, video
*Updated 9/20/2006*


Full Text of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Address before the 61st General Assembly of the United Nations

(snip)

" . . . It is for this reason that we state:

Sustainable peace and tranquility in the world can only be attained through justice, spirituality, ethics, compassion and respect for human dignity. All nations and states are entitled to peace, progress and security. We are all members of the international community and we are all entitled to insist on the creation of a climate of compassion, love and justice.

All members of the United Nations are affected by both the bitter and the sweet events and developments in today`s world.


225 posted on 10/03/2006 10:15:36 PM PDT by callmejoe
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