Posted on 10/01/2006 4:26:20 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, October 1st, 2006
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif.; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf; Sen. Mike DeWine, R-Ohio, and his Democratic opponent, Rep. Sherrod Brown.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Presidential counselor Dan Bartlett; Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Bartlett; Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.; poet laureate Donald Hall.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : Bartlett; U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad; Sens. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Christopher Dodd, D-Conn.; former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
Considering two of the 9/11 hijackers had made a martyr video that has just been released I fail to see how the media can ignore that fact and only concenrtrate on gay misbehaviour.
I was not aware of this video, when did this happen?!
Ask any dem a question harder than what did you have for breakfast???????????
You know I converse with you often and appreciate your wisdom... (insert butt monkey here) Watch your tone with my brother... now apologize, or I shall flog you.
Most people here already know this but the best advice to everyone is never say anything on the phone, in IM or e-mail, or post anywhere on the internet anything you would not want made public.
We needed Hannity to tell us that Woodward is not to be trusted..........LOL....c'mon....give us some credit for smarts.
Wasn't that the 9th Circus? I thought they did but it was overturned. Will check.
Yes, and I hope the administration has some really good information to release to get people back on topic of what's really important and highlighting the differences between the GOP and the Rats. I'm hoping President Bush starts pounding the podium and getting mad at their lies and intelligence leaks.
"Evidently, according to MSNBC, The White house has put out a 5 points statement on where Woodward is wrong. I haven't seen the statement."
Here it is:
Myth/Fact: Five Key Myths in Bob Woodward's Book
Setting the Record Straight
"The reality is the President knows we're in a long war with a determined enemy, and has said so from the start."
-White House Press Secretary Tony Snow, 9/30/06
MYTH #1: Woodward Says The Facts Of A May 24 Intelligence Assessment Refuted The President's Forecasts In A Chicago Speech Two Days Earlier. (Bob Woodward, State Of Denial, 2006)
FACT: President Bush Knows We Are In A Tough, Critical Struggle And Consistently Reminds The American People Of This, Including In His Chicago Remarks. In Chicago, the President said: "Our nation has been through three difficult years in Iraq. And the way forward will bring more days of challenge and loss." (President Bush, Remarks, Chicago, IL, 5/22/06)
President Bush: "The Path To Freedom Is Always One Of Struggle And Sacrifice. And In Iraq, Our Brave Men And Women In Uniform Have Accepted The Struggle And Have Made The Sacrifice." (President Bush, Remarks, Chicago, IL, 5/22/06)
President Bush: "The [Iraqi] Government Is Still A Work In Progress, And Overcoming Longstanding Divisions Will Take Time. Iraq's New Leaders Know They Have A Great Deal Of Work Ahead To Broaden The Base Of Their Government And To Unite The People." (President Bush, Remarks, Chicago, IL, 5/22/06)
President Bush: "And I Can Understand Why People Are Concerned About Whether Or Not Our Strategy Can Succeed, Because Our Progress Is Incremental. Freedom Is Moving, But It's In Incremental Steps." (President Bush, Remarks, Chicago, IL, 5/22/06)
President Bush's December 2005 Address To The Nation: "Yet Our Work Is Not Done. There Is More Testing And Sacrifice Before Us." "Since the removal of Saddam, this war, like other wars in our history, has been difficult. The mission of American troops in urban raids and desert patrols, fighting Saddam loyalists and foreign terrorists, has brought danger and suffering and loss. ... The work in Iraq has been especially difficult - more difficult than we expected. Reconstruction efforts and the training of Iraqi security forces started more slowly than we hoped. We continue to see violence and suffering, caused by an enemy that is determined and brutal, unconstrained by conscience or the rules of war. ... The terrorists will continue to have the coward's power to plant roadside bombs and recruit suicide bombers. And you will continue to see the grim results on the evening news." (President Bush, Address To The Nation, Washington, DC, 12/18/05)
MYTH #2: Woodward Claims The Administration Ignored Paul Bremer's Requests For More Troops. (Bob Woodward, State Of Denial, 2006)
FACT: Bremer Has Said His Request Was Considered. BREMER: "[Rumsfeld] said he'd received it and would consider it and he did he consider it." (NBC's "Meet The Press," 1/15/06)
FACT: Sec. Rumsfeld Has Said Bremer's Request Was Considered. RUMSFELD: "Just before he left he sent a memorandum to me indicating that he thought there should be more troops, and it was within a matter of weeks before he departed. And I took that and sat down with General Myers, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and said, this is a reasonable proposal from a reasonable person; let's look at it. And he took it down into the Joint Staff and the tank and had the chiefs - and they spent several weeks in making evaluations with respect to it, and at some moment came back to me - I acknowledged receiving the memo from Jerry Bremer when I received it, told him what I was going to do with it, giving it to General Myers." (Sec. Donald Rumsfeld, Press Briefing, 1/12/06)
FACT: Gen. Pace Has Said Bremer's Request Was Considered. PACE: "Sir, we did a very thorough analysis of that recommendation and when we got done, all the chiefs agreed with the commanders in the field that the numbers of troops in the field then, as now, was appropriate to what we were fighting." (Gen. Peter Pace, Press Briefing, 1/12/06)
Tony Snow: "The Idea That Somehow The President Rejects Or Ignores Advice Is Simply Wrong." "There is a chain of command, and the chain of command involves a lot of people, and the President will give differing advice. But the idea that somehow the President rejects or ignores advice is simply wrong. And the President - and so what you have here are people making serious determinations. Donald Rumsfeld is the Secretary of Defense, and in the chain of command, he is the person who will make the recommendations. What you have not heard, I don't think, are the Generals involved in the theaters saying, I asked for something and I didn't get it. Tommy Franks' book is replete with discussions of that. And you can ask the Generals in the field, because the President has said it over and over again, if they ask for it, they'll get it." (Tony Snow, Press Briefing, 9/29/06)
MYTH #3: Woodward Claims Condoleezza Rice Brushed Off George Tenet And Cofer Black's July 2001 Warning About Al Qaeda. (Bob Woodward, State Of Denial, 2006)
FACT: According To State Department Spokesman Sean McCormack, The Recollections Portrayed By Woodward Do Not Reflect Tenet And Black's 9/11 Commission Testimony. "But Rice and other State Department officials denied [Woodward's claim], noting that the report of the Sept. 11 commission, which had sworn testimony from Tenet and others at the meeting, made no mention of the July 10 encounter. 'The recollections as portrayed in the Woodward book in no way reflect the public and private testimony under oath of those individuals to the 9/11 commission,' said Sean McCormack, the State Department spokesman." (David E. Sanger, "White House Disputes Book's Account Of Rifts On Iraq," The New York Times, 9/30/06)
MYTH #4: Woodward Claims Gen. Abazaid Alleged Sec. Rumsfeld "Doesn't Have Any Credibility Anymore." (Bob Woodward, State Of Denial, 2006)
FACT: Gen. Abizaid's Spokesman Says Gen. Abizaid Denies Saying This, And In Fact "General Abizaid Has Nothing But The Greatest Respect For Mr. Rumsfeld." (David E. Sanger, "White House Disputes Book's Account Of Rifts On Iraq," The New York Times, 9/30/06)
MYTH #5: Woodward Claims Then-Chief Of Staff Andy Card Tried To Remove Sec. Rumsfeld, And Mrs. Bush Also Wanted Him Removed. (Bob Woodward, State Of Denial, 2006)
FACT: Card Has Made Clear That Woodward Ignored The Situation's Context. "'Right after the election, I went to Camp David and talked to the president, and we talked about a lot of changes, starting with the chief of staff,' Mr. Card said, recounting how he used to tote around what he called his 'hit by a bus book,' a notebook of lists of potential replacements for senior White House staff members and top cabinet officials. 'It's not inaccurate to say that we talked about Rumsfeld,' he said. 'I can understand why Bob would try to create a climate around these conversations.' But he added: 'There was no campaign, and I didn't go out and solicit others to back any view about getting rid of anyone. I could talk about these things with the president, and plant seeds, because there is a cadence to life in Washington and you raise these issues periodically.' Mr. Card acknowledged that he renewed the question of replacing Mr. Rumsfeld this year, but again insisted that it was not part of a specific effort to single out the defense secretary for removal." (David E. Sanger, "White House Disputes Book's Account Of Rifts On Iraq," The New York Times, 9/30/06)
FACT: "Mrs. Bush's Office Has Said, Not True ... Flatly Not True." (Tony Snow, Press Briefing, Washington, DC, 9/29/06)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060930-5.html
I don't condone what Foley did -- I abhore what he did, but this is a terrible case of pot calling kettle black because what he did is what the dims, through the ACLU, have basically tried to legislate for years....
I don't condone what Foley did -- I abhore what he did, but this is a terrible case of pot calling kettle black because what he did is what the dims, through the ACLU, have basically tried to legislate for years....
Good grief...I just saw a promo for Fox News...and it showed Wesley Clark at the pro-Murtha rally...in opposition of the BootMurtha rally, being held by Free Republic.
I wonder if Fox will be fair and balanced and show BOTH sides of this subject.
http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Security_Forces
Here is the raw data on Iraq. Seems Bob Woodward latest work is simply a regurgitation of every falsehood, half truth and exaggeration present by the Junk Media on Iraq since 2003.
In a vain attempt to falsely validate preconceived notions, Mr Woodward demonstrated how the Left has managed to be wrong on every aspect of the Iraq War. Mr Woodward's central thesis is that attacks are "as high as they have ever been". Perhaps that is true. Even if true those attacks are getting less and less effective. If conditions are worsening why were the Iraqis taking higher monthly casualties in 2004 and 2005 with a smaller force?
Simply put BW, like the rest of the American Political Left is full of it. They have had their minds made up about Iraq from even before the war started. In his latest work it is clear Mr Woodward simply went to find people who would say what he wanted to hear. It is also becoming apparent that when he did not hear what he wanted, Mr Woodward simply misquoting the source to put his Democrat Party Masters spin on the data. Apparently this current book is his act of atonement to the DC Establishment for writing a fairly balanced book on President Bush last time.
If you chart the data at the sources above, you see a base line of violence. While the violence ebbs and flows the base line is steady at 65 Coalition casualties a month. The Iraqis are averaging a steady 200 casualties a month. No sustained rise in baseline casualties to validate the "Iraq is heading for Civil War" Democrat Media Machine spin.
What is particularly significant about the Iraqi Security Forces casualties is they are averaging the same casualty levels with a much larger force. As of Aug 2006 there is a 300,000 Iraqi security force in the field with about 5,000 being added a month. By the end of the year the Iraqi Security Forces will be complete fielded. Right now out of 18 provinces in Iraq only 2 are considered "not ready" for transition to Iraqi control. Of course the two provinces are Anbar, the province along the Syrian border and Basrah the Shi'a stronghold along the border with Iran. Yet even in both those areas significant progress has been made just in September 2006 alone.
In Anbar the Iraqi tribes have entered into an agreement to work with the Iraqi Government to root out the foreign terrorist groups. In Basrah, the British and Iraqi forces just started operations to crack down on the Shi'a militias.
Iraq: British, Iraq troops begin Basra mission
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1709154/posts
Most Tribes in Anbar Agree to Unite Against Insurgents (The NY Times is deeply saddened)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1703582/posts
This data totally undercuts the spin presented by Bob Woodward, and other Democrat Party propagandists, that Iraq is "heading for Civil War" or is "spinning out of control".
What Woodward et all seem to fixate on is Iraqi Civilian casualties. What they forget is a terrorist or a militia member killed in intra tribal gang warfare is considered "an Iraqi civilian casualty". So when you hear a news story that says "40 bodies discovered around Baghdad" MOST of them are probably casualties from gang on gang violence. While that violence is an on growing crises we and the Iraqis will have to deal with, it is not a fundamental threat to the long term survival of the Iraqi Government.
Obviously the immediate counter the Leftist propagandists will claim is that ;We are not making fast enough progress" That is nonsense.
look at the data on Iraqi security forces. More and more of the job is being taken up by Iraqi forces. 2 of 18 Providence have been turned over to complete Iraqi control. Out of 18 Iraqi provinces all but 2 are at least partially under Iraqi control All the progress in the war is on our side. The enemy is making no progress. Time is on our side, not theirs.
Another factor on Iraq the Leftists fails to grasp is how the war in Iraq has fundamentally changed in the last 6 months. Because the external Terrorist threat has been significantly reduced, we are able to focus on other lesser threats. Witness what the British down south, and the US in the Baghdad region, are doing. They are working with the Iraqis to weed out the gangs and militia that sprung up in the wake of Saddam's fall.
Counter Insurgency is slow, painful work. But the progress is all on our side. The "Insurgents" has demonstrated no ability to politically or militarily evolve. Guerrilla war strategy consists of 3 phases.
1. Stage one: very small unit harassment actions.
2. Stage two: continuation of state one with an evolution to large units actions. Development of larger and large geographic areas fully under Guerrilla control.
3. Stage three: conventional warfare between large units.
The Terrorists are still stuck in stage one of Guerrilla Warfare. They can wreck stuff and kill people they cannot grow. They cannot take and hold ground or engage in anything beyond small scale hit and run attacks.
Their failure to develop a shadow political structure to act as a polar opposite to the Iraqi Government is their fatal flaw. They simply lack the structure or local support network needed to move beyond state one
The claims and assumptions stated as "fact" by Mr Woodward on Iraq are fraudulent. Considering he has got just about everything on Iraq completely wrong in his recent public statements, one has to wonder just what else he make up for this book?
Who is this Hamid Mir that has suddenly popped up on TV? Is he hawking a book too?
Sorry, you'll have to flog me. Please be gentle :-)
Sherrod Brown is a dem congress-creature from Ohio. The dems kicked out Paul Hackett, the Iraq war critic, so Brown could run against DeWine. Hackett was fit to be tied, but stayed with the party. His hatred of the President supercedes his humiliation at the hands of the dems.
Exactly. Wondertwins powers activate. I am always glad to see them make the analogy... so you can see the exact same crap from Kerry, Murtha, Kennedy and the rest. Then I would ask how the pull out and slaughter after made us look in the eyes of 'the world'.
Especially the slaughter after we left Vietnam. Not to mention in Bosnia and Africa till today... did they not hear OBL and Al (mark of the beast), Zarahiri say that us leaving showed the weakness of the US and spurred them on to greater satanic terror?
Outstanding.
My guess of the three stories...Woodwards book, Foley and the videos of the 9-11 highjackers...the MSM will run with Woodward and Foley.......
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