1 posted on
09/30/2006 12:54:19 PM PDT by
jmc1969
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To: jmc1969
Well I think Bush has expressed his thanks for Pakistan's help many, many times but the truth is Pakistan could do more. The reason it doesn't is because of their internal politics. We just have to work with them and work around them.
To: jmc1969
3 posted on
09/30/2006 12:57:50 PM PDT by
sure_fine
(*not one to over kill the thought process*)
To: jmc1969
4 posted on
09/30/2006 12:58:53 PM PDT by
shield
(A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
To: jmc1969
saying that the United States blackmailed Pakistan by threatening to bomb it "back to the Stone Age" I stop reading right there.
The journalist has put his/her little twist on things. He/she knows darn well it was one individual Armitage who reportedly made the comment yet the blame is given by the reporter to the whole US.
They are tricky...these reporters.
5 posted on
09/30/2006 1:00:10 PM PDT by
what's up
To: jmc1969
You will be brought down to your knees if Pakistan doesn't co-operate with you.
Sounds like a veiled threat to me. Wearing a kevlar burkha.
6 posted on
09/30/2006 1:02:35 PM PDT by
kinoxi
To: jmc1969
[..."If we were not with you, you would not manage anything. Let that be clear," he (Mushareff) said."...]
So I wonder what set him off.
To: jmc1969
This is Islamofascist spin. Musharraf just had dinner with Bush a few days ago and spent time with him in TX.
To: jmc1969
At any time the US could turn the entire Muslim population in both Afghanistan and Pakistan into dust--remember that.
10 posted on
09/30/2006 1:04:14 PM PDT by
giobruno
To: jmc1969
"You will be brought down to your knees if Pakistan doesn't co-operate with you. That is all that I would like to say. Pakistan is the main ally. If we were not with you, you would not manage anything. Let that be clear," he said. And your sh*thole of a country can be turned into a sandbox in an hour.
12 posted on
09/30/2006 1:05:08 PM PDT by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: jmc1969
He is between a rock and a hard place. I expect this is intended for internal consumption. If he got any closer to the U.S. he would probably be assassinated. Indeed, I'm sure there are many in Pakistan who would take pleasure in doing so.
13 posted on
09/30/2006 1:05:41 PM PDT by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: jmc1969
"You will be brought down to your knees if Pakistan doesn't co-operate with you. That is all that I would like to say. Pakistan is the main ally. If we were not with you, you would not manage anything. Let that be clear," he said. Mr. Mussharaf, your arrogance does at least match your foolishness in making such remarks.
To: jmc1969; kinoxi
You will be brought down to your knees if Pakistan doesn't co-operate with you.Yup. Sounds like a threat to me, too.
16 posted on
09/30/2006 1:07:51 PM PDT by
Paul Ross
(We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
To: jmc1969
Pakistan is lost to us as an ally. They have ceeded ALL their Taliban/Al Qaeda infested territories to the terrorists as of last week. Pakistan CANNOT control the terrorists in their midst and Mushie is on borrowed time.
Paksitan will fall to Islamism before the next year is done... if not sooner and we cannot do a thing to help them.
Then we will have an entire country open to terrorist training camps and the like and they will be in control of nuclear bombs.
To: jmc1969
These quotes are cherry-picked out of a longer discussion by Musharraf.
We should be wiser to such tactics by now, but many still swallow the MSM tricks.
Cherry picking of quotes is one of the MSM's more effective ways of propogandizing their cause.
To: jmc1969
...sounds like Baghdad Bob rhetoric
20 posted on
09/30/2006 1:09:51 PM PDT by
Doogle
(USAF 69-73...."never store a threat you should have eliminated")
To: jmc1969
"And if the ISI (Inter Services Intelligence) is not with you, you will fail. Let that be very clear also. Remember my words: if the ISI is not with you and Pakistan is not with you will lose in Afghanistan." And let us be clear, Mushy: if you are not with us, you will surely die.
To: jmc1969
"You will be brought down to your knees if Pakistan doesn't co-operate with you. That is all that I would like to say. Pakistan is the main ally. If we were not with you, you would not manage anything. Let that be clear," he said.Next time the Pakis piss off India, we should let India nuke those sob's.
23 posted on
09/30/2006 1:12:38 PM PDT by
Maynerd
(New Middle East policy - less troops more nukes)
To: jmc1969
And if the ISI (Inter Services Intelligence) is not with you, you will fail. Let that be very clear also.
That part is abundantly clear as it was the ISI that warned bin Laden of the missile strike during the Clinton Administration, the impending US attack against al Qaeda and the Taliban following 9-11, and has successfully stymied allied intelligence services trying to locate our enemies with Pakistan.
I do not trust Musharraf or Pakistan. They are playing us as fools.
To: jmc1969
"The United States and its allies will fail in the so-called "war on terror" without the support of Pakistan and its intelligence service, Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf said Saturday, September 30.
"You will be brought down to your knees if Pakistan doesn't co-operate with you. That is all that I would like to say. Pakistan is the main ally. If we were not with you, you would not manage anything. Let that be clear," he said. "
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I agree with him. His reaction is to the Dems constant attacks, who want to insert a wedge between the US and our allies, to have the Bush administration fail in the war on terror, even if that will mean millions of Americans dead. The Dems want to regain power on over the dead bodies of Americans, literally. This may sound dramatic, but it's no exaggeration.
29 posted on
09/30/2006 1:22:24 PM PDT by
FairOpinion
(Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
To: jmc1969
Wasn't that lowlife Khan the Pakistani who gave nuclear advice to our enemies. What happened to him in Pakistan. Why nothing at all. All is forgiven. Blech, this Mushareff ought to shut his face already.
31 posted on
09/30/2006 1:25:19 PM PDT by
OldFriend
(Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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