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Court-martialed chaplain declares victory
WND ^ | September 30, 2006

Posted on 09/30/2006 11:38:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/30/2006 11:38:14 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Heaven forbid we imprison people for praying to their God. Unless its Allah, in which case ACLU would approve.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 09/30/2006 11:41:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Sorry to disagree. He was a serving member of the military, and disobeyed an order.The conviction should stand.


3 posted on 09/30/2006 11:43:38 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Kaslin

Praise the Lord. I am happy for him. Glad he stood up for Jesus.


4 posted on 09/30/2006 11:44:10 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for posting this.


5 posted on 09/30/2006 11:44:46 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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Sorry to disagree. He was a serving member of the military, and disobeyed an order.The conviction should stand.

Yes it should. But I'm glad to see the change in policy.
6 posted on 09/30/2006 11:46:31 AM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: Kaslin

An answered prayer.


7 posted on 09/30/2006 11:48:11 AM PDT by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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Would you be equally happy if he'd been a Muslim quoting from the Quran and calling for the death of infidels while wearing his uniform?

I think people are being a little short sighted in this case and jumping to unwarranted assumptions about the intent of the UN Navy.

8 posted on 09/30/2006 11:49:57 AM PDT by jess35
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OUCH! Make that US Navy.


9 posted on 09/30/2006 11:50:58 AM PDT by jess35
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I'll let you take up for the Muslims. I am a Christian.


10 posted on 09/30/2006 11:51:34 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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Nice way of ducking the issue.


11 posted on 09/30/2006 12:03:49 PM PDT by jess35
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To: Commander8
Jay Sekulow, America Center for Law and Justice, an organization funded and set up by Pat Robertson, is a huge part of getting this done.

Based in Washington, D.C., the American Center for Law and Justice specializes in constitutional law. Through our work in the courts and the legislative arena, the ACLJ is dedicated to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms.

09.29.06 Legal & Legislative Recap: Among the topics to be updated: protecting the solemnity of military funerals, the constitutional free speech rights of military pastors...

http://www.aclj.org

12 posted on 09/30/2006 12:05:31 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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Agreed. He was ordered not to wear his uniform to a political rally. He ignored that order. GUILTY AS CHARGED!

LiteKeeper
Chaplain, US Army, retired...and a born-again Christian!

13 posted on 09/30/2006 12:52:47 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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Would you be equally happy if he'd been a Muslim quoting from the Quran and calling for the death of infidels while wearing his uniform?

No. I'd throw his rear end in the brig. The Constitution says nothing about the right to proselytize for a gangster death cult.

Next question.

14 posted on 09/30/2006 12:57:41 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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Although Pat "opens mouth inserts foot" from time to time, his creation of the ACLJ to counteract the ACLU more than makes up for it. It is a wonderful organization that supports Christians in the same way that the ACLU supports atheists.

As far as the details of this case, I live in Jacksonville, NC, the home of Camp Lejeune where this Navy chaplain has been stationed. He was interviewed on a local radio talk show about the case and was very impressive. He was willing to stand up for what he believed because his allegiance is to God first and the Navy second. He was doing it for chaplains of ALL faiths, not just those who pray in Jesus name. I am glad that the order was rescinded due to his efforts!
15 posted on 09/30/2006 1:00:58 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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Your comment is based on the false moral equivalence of all religions. That's a key difference between Islam and Christianity. When have you heard Christian ministers calling "death to infidals"?


16 posted on 09/30/2006 1:14:38 PM PDT by tjd1454
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"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)




The above is the oath of an offier to serve the United States, not your un navy. perhaps the quran may work for you in your new world order. For Me, this nation is a Judeo-Christian from the start.

Till I can hear the volume of muslims overcoming the chirping of crickets, in regard to showing they are of action, rather than noise in regard to the way their religion is of peace, I'll buy into something more like this.
17 posted on 09/30/2006 1:17:31 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: LiteKeeper

Agreed...a pretty simple case, unfortunately he got off lightly.


18 posted on 09/30/2006 1:20:46 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: srmorton
If a christian has legal problems they can call ACLJ, and Jay will take that case. It's actually amazing how much ACLJ has done for the conservative cause.

Jay Sekulow has been all over this case on military pastor's and the Name of Jesus...in fact, I credit Jay Sekulow with the decision by the USAF to change their regulations back to using The Name of Jesus.

Pat Robertson has also done much for the conservative cause. I learned long ago to completely disregard what's reported negatively on Pat Robertson and our President, and the GOP, and and and....there's not much reported these days that can really be trusted, don't you think?

19 posted on 09/30/2006 1:22:11 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Kaslin
A Navy chaplain court-martialed for wearing his uniform during a public event in which he prayed in Jesus' name is declaring victory after a congressional conference committee agreed on a compromise rescinding a Navy policy that barred "sectarian" prayers.

Another reason for conservatives to not sit home this November...

20 posted on 09/30/2006 1:25:12 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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