Posted on 09/30/2006 10:51:39 AM PDT by FairOpinion
The governor takes a commanding lead, with many Democrats and independents saying they support him. A key issue is leadership skill.
Just over five weeks before election day, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger holds a commanding lead over his Democratic challenger, state Treasurer Phil Angelides, who has built scant support beyond a core base of liberals, according to a new Los Angeles Times Poll.
If the Nov. 7 election were held today, likely voters would favor the Republican governor over Angelides 50% to 33%.
The survey found an abundance of grim signs for Angelides, including a failure to match Schwarzenegger's success in rallying voters of his own party strongly behind his candidacy. Just 61% of Democrats support Angelides, while 88% of Republicans favor Schwarzenegger. And independents, a crucial swing vote, support Schwarzenegger over Angelides 49% to 31%.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
What we have on this board is some pretend-conservatives trying to convince real conservaties that there is no difference between Arnold and Angelides, to help out Angelides.
This article below describes them to a T.
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But there seems to be a new Republicans vote on Wednesday taking form in time for the 2006 election. This effort targets grassroots conservatives known for their passionate views about issues who may be open to a grassroots voting rebellion. But the effort is being led, or at the very least aided, by liberals pretending to be grassroots conservatives, as opposed to actual grassroots conservatives themselves.
The premise follows a scheme previously found most often on talk radio programs: a liberal activist calls a conservative radio host, such as Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham, and delivers the line: Ive been voting Republican for 30 years, but Ive finally had it and Im not voting this year. Or my favorite: Im a Reagan Republican, but Im fed up and voting for John Kerry. (Because that is what Reagan Republicans would do, vote for John Kerry.) At this point, the host usually asks a couple of questions and it becomes painfully obvious that the supposed Reagan Republican has probably never voted for anyone right of Michael Dukakis.
The intentions are clear: the caller hopes to make it appear as though there is already a large uprising of conservatives who are rebelling against GOP candidates, and thus, wishes to incite other Republicans to pick up the same attitude and pass it along, leading to the Democrat becoming more competitive. The successes of such a strategy on voting habits are unclear, especially given that the conservative radio host often refutes the callers talking points.
But the pretend-conservative act is being carried onto a whole new playing field, one that has become wildly influential over the past few years and one that does not stand to be instantly recognized as a fake. That playing field is the blogosphere, which is then used in conjunction with massive e-mailings to spread the word (as one e-mailer insisted I do to my readers/e-mail list) to other conservatives.
The concept is the same: the blog or e-mail claims, first, that the said writer has been a conservative for years and that they have had it with Republicans. They then point to an issue that conservatives would likely be upset about such as excessive spending, immigration, or the expansion of government. Their supposed rage over the issue has convinced them to either not show up to vote in 2006, or, in order to really show Republicans, vote for the Democrat instead.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1613957/posts?page=87#87
If Angelides can help conservative Republicans get the Austrian pretender out of the CaGOP, he's got my thanks. Angelides should hire Schwarzenegger as his campaign spokesman.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"If Angelides can help conservative Republicans get the Austrian pretender out of the CaGOP, he's got my thanks."
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You demonstrated yet again, that you are NO conservative, NO Republican, not even a moderate, but a mouthpiece FOR socialist, leftist Angelides.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Go ahead, keep campaigning for socialist Angelides.
Aren't you ashamed to unrelentingly campaign for socialist Angelides in a conservative forum?
They helped push Arnold to the center over the past year by failing to turnout and support the Special Election measures. There was a record low turnout in areas like Orange County.
Arnold will win re-election. The question is whether there will be sufficient GOP turnout to carry McClintock, and other down ticket GOP candidates to victory. If McClintock loses, I suspect it will be narrowly, and only because the "ideologically pure" crowd sucked it collective thumb and stayed home.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Some of whom actually brag about not having bothered to vote.
Angelides is grasping at straws and has "con nservatives staying home or voting third party" as part of his win strategy and some of his stooges here are trying to implement that strategy.
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A Recipe for Success (for Angelides) (Conservatives are Angelides' secret weapon)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1689690/posts
Here are some things he could do:
o Attack Arnold from the right :
§ Illegal immigrationArnold has angered the conservative base with some of his comments on this issue. The Angelides campaign, or perhaps an anti-Arnold independent expenditure campaign, could attack Arnold in the mail or on the radio and use Arnolds own words against him.
§ Taxes/government spendingThe state government continues to run what is essentially a deficit and Arnolds numerous proposals to increase government spending and borrowing turn off Republicans. This line of attack could also mitigate some of the tax attacks against Angelides.
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Schwarzenegger Hears Rumbles From the Right
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685932/posts
" low conservative turnout will loom as a key peril for the governor and a prime source of hope for Democrats."
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"Angelides ... must win 80% of the Dems and a solid majority of the DTS (declined to state) registrants, TO ACCOMPANY THE 15% REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T VOTE FOR THEIR PARTY'S TICKET"
ANGELIDES IS COUNTING ON THEM.
http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2006/07/new_poll_result.html
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Angelides team bullish on California's blue state math (counting on CONSERVATIVES, to win)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1676818/posts
Angelides' camp believes that while the governor enjoys support among some Democrats now, by the time ballots are cast in November, the base will remain loyal.
They also believe that the opposite will occur with the Republicans because Schwarzenegger's recent move to the left on key issues such as immigration and the environment has alienated conservatives.
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To pull off a win, Angelides must seize his opportunities
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683377/posts
"But it will not be easy, and Angelides must take full advantage of the opportunities: ... the governor's sometimes tense relationship with conservatives; "
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That is so pathetic. Voters in Afghanistan and Iraq braved great danger to get to the polls for a chance to vote. Their turnout at the polls puts us to shame.
Let me repeat this S-L-O-W-L-Y:
Any conservative who doesn't get out and ACTIVELY VOTE FOR ARNOLD, IS VOTING FOR ANGELIDES.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
No, you don't get it. You probably don't get out much, either. Arnold is as conservative as you are going to get in California until the news media swings back to a more level-handed status.
McClintock, good man that he is, will be lucky to edge a victory on a down-ballot race. He would have been clobbered running for Gov this year.
No one says it is fair or right, just how the state works.
But he increased funding for Medi-Cal and Healthy Families.
Shhh! It's still universal healthcare, just that it's in parts instead of the whole sum.
Do you not live in California any longer, or are you just that clueless?
I'm out here in Alabama and I know that Arnold vetoed UHC and gay rights bills this year.
You apparently do not know it. Sad. You're one of the uneducated who votes anyway...
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