California reading lamp
Posted on 09/30/2006 9:29:51 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
And how do you seperate it, so that you get only the type you want?
Extension cords to the appropriate power plant?
"not only inside California, but outside as well."
How long does Cali expect this to last?
Now they are trying to legislate how the rest of the country acts too?
Maybe when their electric bills go up exponentially, they will get their collective heads out of you know where.
Great. Looks like California is going to push the price of NG right back through the roof.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
I read the legislation. It simply sets a benchmark for CO2 emissions. Any new plant cannot have CO2 emissions that exceed those that would occur from a new natural gas fired combined cycle plant.
Natural gas is CH4 (i.e., a bit of carbon and lots of hydrogen). Coal is essentially 100% carbon (excluding the 10% ash and a very wee bit of hydrogen). "Clean Coal" technology reduces emissions of other nasties such as sulphur and nitrogen oxides and mercury as well as pushes efficiency above 45% in combined cycle plants. But you are still burning pure carbon, so there is no way the CO2 emissions from a combined cycle coal fired plant can be less than the CO2 emissions from a combined cycle natural gas fired plant.
In other words, the bill bans new coal fired plants.
The loophole is the long-term financial contract clause. Utilities can simply sign power contracts for durations less than 3 years. That is the reason all three of California's investor-owned utilities supported the bill.
I HOPE that these California idiots REALLY enjoy blackout next summer! DO NOT BITCH to the rest of us in hope that we will feel sorry for you. You made your bed, Californians, now lie kin it!
California reading lamp
But they just moved the price of green power...
If I install a solar array in VA, and sell the output to CA, do you think the electrons actually go 3000 miles to supply them? Oh, heck, no.
But I can make a fortune pandering to their idiocy...
And somebody is, I assure you.
Just wait we will be called on to bail them out of the hole they are digging for themselves. Where is the Gray Davis they deserve? I've concluded that best way to attack liberalism is for Republicans to support and encourage Homeschooling and develop communities apart. Conservative populations are growing faster and will eventually overtake the left permanently in this country if we keep our kids out of public schools (the indoctrination in mediocrity and hedonism camps).
It is too bad Muslims are so radically aligned, conservative Muslims, Christians, Jews, and others who believe in a just moral reasoned society should be working together not attacking each other. We outnumber the vermin so why do we bow down to them and allow their base culture to override ours? I was listening to the radio and Savage was going on about this and he was absolutely right. The subculture is oppressing the culture ascendant, it is like the way AIDs attacks the immune system. It first takes out the ability of the body's ability to identify the disease like the left has attempted to take out the ability for us to identify right, wrong, and truth by turning the idea of Freedom into a spineless wad of mush that means whatever they define it to be.
I think this law will be struck down. It violates the interstate commerce clause of the US Constitution.
Thanks for your prayers. It is awful here. The Senators in Sacramento are the most whacked-out bunch of Marxists. The Republican/conservatives up there are great, but are totally out-numbered by the brain-addled libs. We are planning to move asap. It's totally disgusting here in So Cal.
It would be an interesting court ruling...interstate trade vs. California EPA....
If the prices are no longer competitive with other states because of artificial controls, seems to me that could be devastating to state agriculture.
They should rename it the California Blackout Bill.
LOL.
And we already know where they stand on the Nuclear option..
Remember, they want to take out the dams, as well.
Which leaves them with natural gas. And they don't want an LNG port, either.
Won't be long before heating will be a matter of burning the furniture. And cooling achieved by draping a wet sheet over an open window...
California is doing it to themselves...
California is doing it to themselves...
Yes, but as we all know, things start here and quickly move to other states. How do you bottle up this insanity in CA and prevent it from infecting other states?
It seems to me that once power plants are part of the grid, all the electricity in the grid becomes fungible.
In other words: Which kilowatt is from which plant?
This is more a bill to protect the established power companies investments against a drop in energy prices.
Some coal producers were planning a project to build a coal burning plant in Nevada, and selling the power to California at cheaper prices than are currently available.
Not sure what will happen to the coal plant in Utah that the City of LA and other utilites have a piece of.
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