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California Bans Coal and Oil Fired Power Plants (real title: Governor signs scores of bills)
San Jose Mercury News ^
| 9/20/06
| Steven Harmon, Barbara Feder and Paul Rogers
Posted on 09/30/2006 9:29:51 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
SB 1368, another environmental measure, prohibits California utilities from buying electricity from out-of-state companies unless it was generated through measures that produce no greater greenhouse gas emissions than electricity generated from natural-gas-fired power plants.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ab32; coal; energy; globalwarming; power; sb1368
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This is a "companion bill" to AB 32, the well-known California global warming bill. With SB 1368, California has effectively banned all oil and coal fired power plants, not only inside California, but outside as well. The bill prohibits any utility from entering into a long-term (3 or more years) financial contract for power generated by coal or oil.
To: ProtectOurFreedom
They considered going it with Hamster power but the danged environmentalist wouldn't hear of it.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:32:01 AM PDT
by
Fighting Irish
(Béagán agus a rá go maith)
To: ProtectOurFreedom
woo hoo...more coal for us
:)
Doogle
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:34:37 AM PDT
by
Doogle
(USAF 69-73...."never store a threat you should have eliminated")
To: ProtectOurFreedom
Which means that most electric available to them is either Gas, HydroElectric or Nuclear.
And we already know where they stand on the Nuclear option..
Sound's like California is going to have a lot of 'brown outs' and 'Blackouts' in the not to distant future.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:35:22 AM PDT
by
Bigh4u2
(Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
To: ProtectOurFreedom
That is the STUPIDEST IDEA in the world. When Californians are sweltering in their darkened homes and can't cook meals they might wake up and realize what a sham they have created.......
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:36:27 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Is Castro DEAD YET?........)
To: ProtectOurFreedom
I know we have some good freepers here from Cali, but could ya'll just move out of there to say.. oh.. Colorado so we can fence off the rest of that whacked out state?
Let the jackasses have it, it's going to fall off into the ocean anyway, maybe we could get a few hundred thousand more libs to move there before it does :P
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:37:41 AM PDT
by
Leatherneck_MT
(In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
To: Bigh4u2
California's also full of NIMBYs who don't want more wind turbines either.
Indeed, there's going to be massive outages and/or the prices are going to soar through the roof - until they then cap prices. Ridiculous.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:38:12 AM PDT
by
DTogo
(I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
To: ProtectOurFreedom
Enviros and young people who have not learned critical thinking tend to say that any step such as building solar or wind plants is all to the good.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:38:28 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
To: ProtectOurFreedom
...prohibits any utility from entering into a long-term (3 or more years) financial contract for power generated by coal or oil.So they can deal with those nasty old polluters as long as they do it in less than three year increments? In any case this would seem to increase the cost of power to California. OK by me as long as they are willing to pay for it.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:38:29 AM PDT
by
FreePaul
To: Red Badger
"they might wake up and realize what a sham they have created......."
Before that happens I am betting the state would attempt to get more power from plants in states right over the line like here in AZ.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:41:52 AM PDT
by
Bogtrotter52
(Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
To: ProtectOurFreedom
Is this an unconstitutional regulation of interstate trade which lies in the exclusive jurisdiction of the federal Congress ?
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:43:09 AM PDT
by
nathanbedford
("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
To: ProtectOurFreedom
prohibits California utilities from buying electricity from out-of-state companies unless it was generated through measures that produce no greater greenhouse gas emissions than electricity generated from natural-gas-fired power plants. Putting aside the stupidity of the legislation for one moment, it at least is logically consistent, in that it prevents California from exporting its fossil fuel based production to other states. In other words, they can't preen themselves over their "green" credentials while exporting pollution to neighbouring states.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:43:09 AM PDT
by
alnitak
("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
To: Bogtrotter52
Are you nuclear, natural gas or hydro?......
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:44:34 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Is Castro DEAD YET?........)
To: ProtectOurFreedom
California appears to be going out of business.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:44:46 AM PDT
by
isthisnickcool
(Don't worry, everything will be OK. Or maybe it won't.)
To: ProtectOurFreedom
They're gonna film the next Jackass movie in the California State Legislature.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:47:12 AM PDT
by
OrioleFan
(Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
To: Bogtrotter52
Before that happens I am betting the state would attempt to get more power from plants in states right over the line like here in AZ. This legislation restricts what type of generation is used when buying that power. I understand it can be coal, but it must be a "clean" coal technology.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:47:20 AM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: ProtectOurFreedom
They should also reject all power made from coal or oil fired power plants.
Talk about NIMBY.
To: Bigh4u2
When the demand for non greenhouse generators go up and there is a limited supply, not only is CA going to suffer brownouts and blackouts, the consumer energy bill will also go up. CA politicians will blame the utility companies for their own failed policies. CA is going to go thru economic/energy hell before it will wake up.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:48:39 AM PDT
by
Fee
(`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
To: ProtectOurFreedom
More power to me.
Leftists are fine so long as they aren't allowed to play with sharp objects or enact legislation.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:51:05 AM PDT
by
kenth
(There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.)
To: Fee
"CA is going to go thru economic/energy hell before it will wake up."
Yep. The shadow of 'Grey Davis' lives on.
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posted on
09/30/2006 9:51:59 AM PDT
by
Bigh4u2
(Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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