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Italy : Ring of steel divides Padua
BBC News ^ | 09/28/2006 | Christian Fraser

Posted on 09/29/2006 6:12:59 AM PDT by Republicain

The Anelli estate in Padua is a cluster of crumbling high-rise flats.

It was built in the 1980s to house the city's considerable student population.

These days it is home to several hundred African immigrants.

It has a reputation for crime, drugs and prostitution, and is a constant source of angry complaints from local Italian residents.

This summer, after riots between opposing gangs, the left-leaning mayor of Padua took a drastic decision to seal off the estate - with a metal wall.

It is 85m (290ft) long, 3m (10ft) high and it stretches along one side of the estate.

"It's not an instrument of segregation," said Mayor Flavio Zanonato.

"We just want to limit the activity of the drug pushers here. This isn't a wall in Palestine. It's just something that's harder for drug dealers to jump over."

Not a solution

But those who live behind the wall say they feel like they have been imprisoned.

"The people on the other side of this wall don't want to know the people in here," said Ibude Agboneta , a Nigerian immigrant.

"They built this wall to hide the problems. But they will not solve the problems in this city by blocking them out."

The fence has been dubbed Padua's Berlin Wall.

An exaggeration - but it is a wall and it is standing between communities.

Perhaps it is a symbol of the problems Italy is facing with integration.

The estate is neither pretty nor comfortable. Most flats have no heating. Graffiti has been sprayed on walls and water trickles down the staircases.

Gang violence

There are racial tensions here. Fights between Christian and Muslim gangs are common. Most of it is over drugs.

The riots in July were so bad that some local residents demanded the wall be built around the entire estate.

There is only one way into the complex, through a police checkpoint.

Uniformed officers now vet everyone coming and going.

The wall has limited the drug-dealing. In fact some of the inhabitants welcome the changes it has brought.

"It is wonderful," said Iroh. "This way drug dealers cannot come and go all the time, there is more control."

But Iroh also accuses the police of "not doing enough to protect those who are not part of the drug-trafficking."

There are young families trapped inside the estate. Families that are frightened, intimidated and stigmatised.

"I lived here with my wife and two children for a year," says Ibude.

"I was terrified for them. It was no place for children to be. There were drug dealers prowling the estate, addicts sleeping in the corridors.

"We shared one bedroom with no windows and we paid 600 euros (£400) a month.

"There is terrible poverty in here - and it's hard to escape. This estate breeds crime!"

Immigration debate

Three of the six buildings were evacuated in 2005, and more than 300 people relocated by the local administration. The remaining three blocks will be closed next year.

"The idea," said Daniela Ruffini, head of Padua's immigration and housing committee, "is to integrate the immigrant families and break down the barriers."

But the truth, say some, is that the authorities cannot find enough landlords prepared to take them.

There are some people in this city who would prefer to forget [immigrants] are here Daniela Ruffini Immigration and housing committee

There are often bitter complaints when Africans move into a predominantly Italian neighbourhood and the council has to guarantee the rent.

Immigration is a touchy issue in the Veneto region, which is one of the main electoral strongholds of the anti-immigration Northern League party.

"Some people like to forget what jobs these immigrants are doing in our community," said Daniela.

"They work in our factories, they build our houses, and they nurse our old people. They do many of the jobs Italians don't want to do.

"They are essential to preserving our standard of living - but at night when the work is finished there are some people in this city who would prefer to forget they are here. "

Padua has a population of 205,000. The province has a migrant population of 70,000.

According to the local authority, one in three of the new-borns in the city is now of foreign origin.

Most find work in local factories. But the pay is poor.

The current law demands migrants have a job contract when they arrive, and it restricts their stay to two years.

Critics say it is a law on control and exploitation of the workforce, not on the integration of people who come to Italy to work.

"I sometimes work 22-hour days," says Ibudi, a cleaner.

"But I know I don't get the same pay as the Italians I work with. I don't get holiday pay or any benefits.

"If you obey the rules in this country and you don't ask too many questions, you can stay. But if you challenge your boss and ask why you get paid less than the Italians you will be unemployed in an instant!"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: europe; immigration; italy; padua

1 posted on 09/29/2006 6:13:00 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain

Assimilation is the key. Not easy to do, but most effective.


2 posted on 09/29/2006 6:17:22 AM PDT by Lucretia Borgia (Who ever said the pen is mightier than the sword never met automatic weapons.)
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To: Republicain
"'It's not an instrument of segregation,' said Mayor Flavio Zanonato."

Can you say "ghetto", Flavio.

3 posted on 09/29/2006 6:29:40 AM PDT by Savage Beast ( 9/11 was never repeated thanks to President George W. Bush.)
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To: Lucretia Borgia
Assimilation is the key.

Agreed. But assimilation starts with the immigrant. The host country shouldn't have to assimilate the immigrant.
4 posted on 09/29/2006 6:29:41 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Savage Beast
I really think Europe is heading for another Holocaust. This reminds me of the Warsaw Ghetto. Seal them in because they are ruining society. And if that solution is not adequate, we will find a more final solution ...

Europe tends to be either too soft or too bloody. I fear the future

5 posted on 09/29/2006 6:32:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Republicain
These days it is home to several hundred African immigrants.

It has a reputation for crime, drugs and prostitution, and is a constant source of angry complaints from local Italian residents.

Now wait a minute - those two sentences together, if spoken by someone here in the US (or even posted here on FR- if the opinions of some Freepers is followed) would be called racist.

6 posted on 09/29/2006 6:45:13 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: Republicain

I have a solution...send the african immigrants back to africa.


7 posted on 09/29/2006 6:45:35 AM PDT by Prysson
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To: Republicain
"They built this wall to hide the problems. But they will not solve the problems in this city by blocking them out."

Agreed. The only solution is to escort the immigrants to the border and give them a good swift kick in the ass as Italy slams the door in their face.
8 posted on 09/29/2006 6:52:04 AM PDT by steel_resolve (Do you know what a bigot is? Someone winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: Republicain
Eerie. Life imitates the movies.

The French movie industry just released, for North American distribution, a movie called Sector B13. The movie is about a ghetto "walled in to contain the scum" - and the final solution was a neutron bomb, designed to kill all the inhabitants.

Way cool stunts (Parkour at its best)- the French may be a lot of things, but they can make a good movie. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/district_b13/about.php or http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/09/12/021834.php for more.
9 posted on 09/29/2006 9:46:08 AM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: Prysson
I have a solution...send the african immigrants back to africa.

But the problem with that is that the African immigrants don't want to go back home to their African countries. Life in Italy is still a piece of cake compared to life in any dear old African homeland.

Unless a miracle happens, the ultimate net result will be Western European countries turning into third world slums with magnificent old stone buildings - if those aren't blown up or torn down by the new barbarians.

It's like Gibbon's "The Fall of the Roman Empire" Part II, only the barbarians this time are from Africa and the Middle East and they despise/resent white Europeans. Assimulation will happen, but it will be the white Europeans that are assimulated because they are the weaker population and have lost any will to protect their heritage.

And, yes, I do realize that the U.S. is rapidly becoming an officially bilingual country for the first time in our history because we've never allowed unlimited illegal immigration before the last 30 years or so. Mexico efffectively keeps moving it's boundry north, and most citizens don't want to atagonize the Latinos by complaining or doing anything to maintain our national soverignity.

10 posted on 09/29/2006 1:16:23 PM PDT by xJones
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To: DustyMoment

Perfect! Right! But here in Italy we are so brave to do the CONTRARY.


11 posted on 09/29/2006 3:27:25 PM PDT by bohemien
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To: ClearCase_guy

too soft, too silent, too tollerant, too generous (Italy gvmt pays a montly check to the first and second wife of a muslim man immigrant. can you believe it?) (from the pockets of the Italians) No word...


12 posted on 09/29/2006 3:30:06 PM PDT by bohemien
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To: Prysson; steel_resolve

Good idea! It is the idea of only 40 milions Italians.


13 posted on 09/29/2006 3:46:39 PM PDT by bohemien
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think Europe is damning itself to the very fate it seeks to avoid.


14 posted on 09/29/2006 7:07:58 PM PDT by Savage Beast ( 9/11 was never repeated thanks to President George W. Bush.)
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To: xJones
It is more like The Camp of the Saints
15 posted on 10/03/2006 1:14:00 PM PDT by Jimnorwellwarren
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