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New Study Shows Pro-Choicers More Likely to Spread Violence
Agape Press ^ | 09.28.06 | Bill Fancher

Posted on 09/28/2006 4:10:46 PM PDT by Coleus

A new research project is raising serious doubt about claims from abortion supporters who say pro-lifers are violent people. The study suggests that, despite their assertions to the contrary, pro-choicers may be the more frequent perpetrators of violence.

Throughout the abortion debate in America, pro-abortion activists have accused pro-lifers of spreading violence; however, Human Life International's senior analyst, Brian Clowes, has just completed a project that suggests the complete opposite is the case. "Seven murders are carried out by so called pro-life people in the time period 1993 to 1998," he notes, "and yet we've documented over 500 murders done by people who are pro-choice."

Clowes documented those murders by pro-choicers in three categories: actual murders by abortionists and pro-choice advocates; men who killed their pregnant girlfriends and wives who refused to abort their babies; and other individuals who killed women because they were pregnant.

"For every single instance of so-called 'pro-life extreme violence' -- which is murder, attempted murder, kidnapping and arson -- we have 80 instances of pro-choice extreme violence," the researcher says. Meanwhile, he points out, "We have a lot of news media that's directed entirely towards talking about how pro-life people are supposed to be so violent, and the pro-choicers are all mild-mannered, nice people."

In other words, Clowes explains, "what we have here is a kind of imbalance" between the truth and the common perception. "And I'd like to try to balance this out, showing that the abortion culture is really violent in all of its aspects," he says. The details of Clowes research project have been made available online. The report can be seen on the website ProChoiceViolence.com.



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To: HeartOfDixie56
You are correct: it is only the woman's choice, and that's part of the problem with the entire issue of abortion.

Obviously it takes two to create the unborn child (for this discussion, I'm omitting the cloning/petri dish pregnancies, etc). However, once the woman is pregnant, she alone has any say in whether the child lives or dies. If she wants it, the man must help support it; if she doesn't want it, she can abort it and he has no say in the matter. Even if he offers to raise the child and "let her get on with her life," that's too bad. Only the woman has "the right to choose."

I think the situation discussed in this story is that men want the women to have abortions and they want to have the babies, so the men murder the mother in order to kill the child. The opposite situation, mentioned above, is just as heinous, IMO, and also contributes to the American "culture of death."

41 posted on 09/29/2006 10:34:17 AM PDT by Prov3456
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To: Coleus
Abortion Violence

On the other hand, whenever pro-abortionists kill or beat up pro-lifers or other people, the local media usually reports fairly on the incidents. However, the national and international news services usually consider such incidents beneath their notice. This means that interested parties must dig a little in order to find documented evidence of pro-abortion violence. It also means that almost everyone is astonished when they are told that pro-abortionists have committed nearly 500 murders since 1966 and an incredible 269 murders just since the year 2000 — and this does not include fatal botched abortions!
       Just a few of these murders are listed below.

In 1998, pro-abortionist Byron Looper, a county property assessor, was running for office against pro-life state Senator Tommy Burks. Looper shot Burks in the left eye with a heavy-caliber pistol near a pumpkin patch where Burks planned to take schoolchildren on a hayride that day, then boasted to his friends "I did it, man, I did it! I killed that dude!"
In 2001, Oklahoma City abortionist John Baxter Hamilton strangled his wife, beat her over the head with a heavy blunt object hard enough to smash a hole in her skull, and then slammed her face repeatedly onto the marble floor of the master bathroom in their home.
In 1995, pro-abortionist Lavern Ward killed Debra Evans, 28, and her daughter, Samantha (stabbed her death, the young girl had defensive wounds from trying to defend herself!), 10, then hacked the unborn child out of Debra Evan's body. He then abducted her son, Joshua, 7, and later (poisoned, strangled and THEN) stabbed him to death. He was convicted of three counts of first-degree murder.
In 1996, 29-year-old pro-abortionist Mark Boyd hired a hit man to kill his 15-year-old girlfriend, Kyunia Taylor, as she rode home on a school bus. Kyunia's baby, named Diamond, was delivered three months premature and died 23 days after Kyunia's murder.
In 1993, Huntsville, Alabama pro-abortion activist Eileen Orstein Janezic murdered 51-year old pro-life activist minister and radio talk show host Jerry Simon. After shooting Simon through a window of his home, she held police at bay with a pistol for six hours while spouting quotes out of Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible.
In 1998, Jackson, Mississippi abortionist Malachi Dehenre, primary abortionist at the New Women's Clinic abortion mill, murdered his wife, Nyesha, who worked with him.
In 1998, a jury found pro-abortionist Alfred E. Smith guilty of murder in the death of his ex-girlfriend Deena Moody. Smith killed Deena because she refused to abort their preborn child.
In 1994, a jury convicted Los Angeles abortionist Alicia Ruiz Hanna of murder after Angela Sanchez, a 27-year-old mother of four, died at her Santa Ana abortion mill. The abortionist tried to stuff Angela's body into the trunk of her car in full view of her children, who were watching from the abortuary's waiting room.
In 1989, a judge sentenced Los Angeles abortionist Milos Klvana to 53 years in prison after a jury found him guilty of murdering eight newborn babies. (from his jail cell, he says NINE)
In 1983, El Paso abortionist Raymond Showery murdered a five-pound viable baby who survived one of his third-trimester abortions, and was later charged with manslaughter after botching an abortion that killed Mickey Apodaca.
In 1997, 38-year old Kevin Robinson murdered 15-year-old Daphne Sulk because he had gotten her pregnant, and she refused to get an abortion to cover up his child molestation.
In 2002, Matthew John Wiedeman and his friend Raymond Anthony Soto murdered 16-year old Stephanie Nicole Burnett by stabbing her repeatedly and beating her to death with a heavy steel barbell because Wiedeman believed she was pregnant and she refused to have an abortion. The coroner said "I think it's one of the most gruesome [murders] I've ever seen."
       For a more detailed list of murders committed by pro-abortionists, click here.
       The killing just goes on and on.
       Pro-abortionists are yellow cowards, pure and simple. They only attack and kill those weaker than themselves. For example, of the 880 people we know of who have been killed by pro-abortionists, 850 (97 percent of the victims) have been women and children and only 30 have been men. And any pro-lifer who has spent any time at all on the picket lines outside any abortion mill knows that the pro-aborts only physically attack women, the elderly, the handicapped, or children, as shown in the state-by-state documentation.
       Below is a summary of the people killed by pro-abortionists;[11]
145 pregnant women [95 pregnant girlfriends, 24 pregnant wives, and 24 other pregnant mothers];
360 abortion clients (for documentation, click here);
71 other women [including four elderly women];
110 born children [68 newborn babies and infants, 16 living aborted preborn babies, and 26 other children under the age of 13];
164 wanted preborn children [remember that even the most hard-core pro-abortionists say that the preborn child is a human being if the mother wants it]; and
30 men [including two pro-life activists, two abortionists, one sheriff's deputy and three elderly men].
       The most pitiful deaths of all are the murders of pregnant mothers. As the documentation list shows, pro-abortionists have raped, tortured, beaten, strangled, poisoned, stabbed, burned, murdered, and even buried alive pregnant women, many of them in their last trimester. It boggles the mind and arouses both intense pity and profound anger when one imagines some laughing pro-abortion male gleefully torturing and then murdering a poor woman who is heavily pregnant and who cannot defend herself. And it staggers the imagination to realize that no pro-abortion group has ever denounced this kind of sickening violence. In fact, in several cases, pro-abortion groups have even opposed charges being brought against the murderer for the killing of the preborn child!
       The murder of pregnant women by pro-abortion men happens far more often than most people imagine. At least three studies have shown that the most common cause of fatalities among pregnant women is murder, and statistics show that almost one-third of these are due to pro-abortion men who kill their wives or girlfriends simply because they are pregnant.
A March 2001 study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that the leading cause of death among pregnant women in Maryland is homicide. Using death records and coroner reports, state health department researchers found 247 pregnancy-associated deaths between 1993 and 1998. Among those deaths, 50 were murders. By comparison, homicide was the fifth-leading cause of death among all Maryland women.
In Cook County, Illinois, 25 of the 95 pregnant women who died between 1986 and 1989 were murdered.
In New York, 73 of the 293 deaths among pregnant women between 1987 and 1991 were homicides.[12]
       If we use the results of these studies and basic information from the Census Bureau, we can easily calculate that about 25 to 30 women are murdered in the United States each year simply because they are pregnant.[13]


New York doctor guilty of murder in abortion death, jury of five women and seven men took only two hours to convict Dr David Benjamin of murdering Guadalupe Negron on 9 July 1993. Mrs Negron, a 33 year old Honduran immigrant to the US and a mother of four, was about 20 weeks pregnant and allegedly paid $800 (£530) for an abortion. Dr Benjamin, whose licence had been revoked in 1993 because of charges of gross incompetence and negligence in abortions performed on five women in 1990, was continuing to practise pending the outcome of his appeal.


The Abortion Underworld: READ THE WHOLE THING!

Excerpt: Two human beings died as a result of a December 1996 abortion performed by Bruce Steir: The 20-week-old unborn child carried by 27-year-old Sharon Hamptlon, and the mother herself. "I think I ve pulled bowel," Steir informed an attending nurse during the abortion a comment indicating that Steir had punctured the uterine wall. Under established medical procedures, Steir should have sent Hamptlon to a hospital. But Steir a notoriously inept practitioner who had mangled several women in Washington and Florida during his 23-year career as an abortionist had been on probation with the California medical board since 1988, and an emergency room visit from a customer would have imperiled his license.

Rather than calling an ambulance, Steir sent Hamptlon home from the Riverside, California, abortion clinic. As her mother and her three-year-old son looked on, Hamptlon a black single mother bled to death in the front seat of the car. By this time Steir was on a plane to San Francisco. As a circuit-riding abortionist, Steir had a busy schedule; there were other "clinics" to visit, and more babies to abort.


U.S. Rep. John Hostettler: Propaganda Distorts Abortion Debate

Excerpt: The truth is that taxi cab drivers, grocery store workers, service station employees, used car dealers, real estate agents, liquor store employees, police officers, jewelers and hotel personnel are murdered at a rate many, many times higher than abortionists, according to Bureau of Labor statistics. But these murders do not fit into a political agenda, so they are ignored by the abortion-favoring media.




42 posted on 09/29/2006 11:08:44 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: 4lifeandliberty; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; anniegetyourgun; applex; ...

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping! (see post #42!!)

Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping list...

43 posted on 09/29/2006 11:18:56 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Salvation; dgallo51

Here's another one:



"By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems."

— Mother Teresa


44 posted on 09/29/2006 11:23:47 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: cgk

Thanks for the ping!


45 posted on 09/29/2006 11:40:05 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: cgk

"And if we can accept that a mother can kill her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?"
---Mother Teresa

It's kinda like paying taxes so our government can throw others into detention for funding terrorism while at the same time supporting regimes that use terrorism against our enemies.


46 posted on 09/29/2006 12:02:18 PM PDT by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: dgallo51
while at the same time supporting regimes that use terrorism against our enemies.

Citation, please.

47 posted on 09/29/2006 12:31:26 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Sacajaweau

Could you clarify what you mean? Are you saying pro-life is the real pro-choice? Pro-choice is not pro-abort? Or that pro-choice should be called pro-abort?


48 posted on 09/29/2006 12:33:07 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: HeartOfDixie56

Yeah - that's what I was wondering too. You just can't call someone who murders a pregnant woman ipso facto "pro-choice." Sounds pretty meaningless to me - as does the study in general.


49 posted on 09/29/2006 12:36:06 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: HeartOfDixie56; 2ndClassCitizen; layman; Prov3456; Balding_Eagle; Luke Skyfreeper; art_rocks; ...
This is not even a study, much less a scientific one, but I was intrigued and looked further at their data. Here's my conclusion:

On the one hand, if you go to the website where the data from this new study is supposedly housed, you find something organized like an encyclopedia that is definitely not new or recently updated. For example, I looked up Rockford, IL abortionist Richard Ragsdale on their encyclopedia page and the information was all quite accurate, but they didn't include the fact that he's been dead for two years now.

On the other hand (and this goes right to the heart of HeartofDixie's wise question), the violence and other crimes committed by just the abortionists in their encyclopedia far outweigh anything I've heard about from pro-life extremeists. I'm not including abortions in that total.

For example, Ragsdale got off scot free after taking child porn photos of his toddler foster daughter. But we're talking violence here, and there were 7 killings by "pro-life" extremists from 1993-1998, so...

1. Lawrence Alozie Akpulonu raped a patient under anesthesia in 1995. Bet she wasn't the only one, just the only one who woke up while he was committing the rape.

2 & 3. Akpulonu "was also given probation for brandishing a loaded handgun in front of pro-lifers and threatening their lives. ...Akpulonu threatened a parking garage attendant with a loaded .380 caliber semi-automatic pistol, which he had been carrying concealed in his vehicle, when the attendant asked him to remove his improperly parked car from a restricted area." Since those two happened before 1993, I'll put them aside for now...guess I'll have to come up with a total of 9 incidents.

4. Philip S. Alberts lost his license in 1995 after it came to light that he had molested over 100 women. He died before trial but prosecuters had 89 women slated to testify against him.

5. Abortionist Peter Bayliss tied one patient to a bed and stuff a sanitary pad in their mouth to keep them quiet.

6. In 1993, David Benjamin allowed a woman whose abortion he had botched to die in his clinic because he waited for at least an hour before summoning an ambulance. A paramedic testified that his efforts to save her were hindered when Benjamin lied about the nature of her condition and treament, and he was indicted for murder because of his "depraved indifference to human life."

7. In 1998, John Biskind and his staff botched an abortion and then left the victim hemorrhaging on a gurney for three hours before calling 911. Paramedics estimated that she had been dead for at least 20 minutes when they arrived.

8. The previous month a woman was bleeding in Biskind's recovery room. He scraped her uterus without anesthesia to find the source of the bleeding. It didn't stop, but he left the clinic and the woman was saved because a nurse called 911.

9. I'm including this one here even though it's after 1998 because it would be too cumbersome for the "catch-all" para below: "Reich was charged with 28 counts of battery, attempted battery, sexual misconduct, prescribing drugs without a license, coercion, and impersonating a doctor. Reich sexually assaulted two of his abortion patients, forcing them to have oral sex with him. Another patient claimed that Reich raped her and botched one of her abortions. Several court testimonies claimed that Reich sexually abused at least six of his patients and botched operations on at least four others." (Found in the entry for "Nicholas Braemer," who he took over the clinic from in 2000.

10. On June 6, 1993, abortionist Stanley Brown tried to run down 79-year old Mrs. Margaret Cowell with his car. He also was found to have performed tubal ligations on pateints without their consent in the Eighties and lost his license for two years in 1988.

Note that I stopped at "Brown" on their alphabetical list of violent/incompetent abortionists. So that's ten, and it's just the abortionists--not even all the abortionists with A and B names--no nurses, protestors, clinic escorts, non-activists killing their girlfriends, etc. In addition, on my list of ten incidents of violence I did not include the following: 7 deaths through botched abortion, 1 abortion so badly botched it was definitely some sort of homicide, an attempt to hide the body of another woman killed by a botched abortion, 1 abortion performed in 1983 on a woman who wasn't pregnant, several abortions without consent prior to 1993, a 1988 death from using an overdose of Lidocaine in lieu of a general anesthetic (with up to two patients per day having siezures from the use of lidocaine overdoses), an Aussie abortionist who tied a patient to a bed and stuffed a sanitary napkin in her mouth, the wife of said Aussie abortionist intentionally letting him die after he fell down some stairs, abotched 1986 abortion which was ruled "homicide" by the coroner because the abortionist had screwed up so badly and then bundled the patient out of the facility when she collapsed, an abortionist charged for brandishing a pistol at abortion protesters (charges dropped because of "discrepancies in witness' descriptions"), an abortioist who did a late-term abortion and only managed to remove one arm from the child who bled out and was stillborn and a case of an abortionist selling controlled meds to addicts.

So, here's my suggestion: Don't cite their "study," but you can believe with all your heart that their conclusion is accurate. In fact, it's probably too lenient. And unless they faked all their cites, their data is ironclad.

Somebody needs to do a real study on this subject with solid methodology.

50 posted on 09/29/2006 12:41:57 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback

Most violence is not from any political class but a social class -the lowest one. This is a silly study which seems to have an odd attitude. Why does anyone believe that such a conclusion would help convince anyone that abortion is bad?


51 posted on 09/29/2006 1:21:54 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

The examples in your post #50 are valid examples that support the headline.

The idea that boyfriends who want their girlfriends to have an abortion are part of the violent pro-abortion crowd is a real stretch.

Tossing in such irrelevant data makes me suspect that they can't support their original assertion with actual hard data.


52 posted on 09/29/2006 1:35:59 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Citation, please.

CENTRAL ASIAN OIL, ENRON, AND THE AFGHANISTAN PIPELINES
By Paul Thompson

http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/main/AAoil.html

Oil barons court Taliban in Texas
By Caroline Lees

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlContent.jhtml?html=%2Farchive%2F1997%2F12%2F14%2Fwtal14.html

Afghanistan, the Taliban 
and the Bush Oil Team 
by Wayne Madsen
democrats.com,  January 2002
Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG),  globalresearch.ca,   23  January 2002

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD201A.html

Clinton Secretly OKed Iran's Arms Shipments to Bosnia
By James Risen and Doyle McManus
Los Angeles Times
WASHINGTON

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V116/N17/clinton.17w.html

The Consortium
Bill Clinton's Secret Dealings with Iran

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/story12.html

British TV documentary exposes NATO lies about Kosovo
By Fred Weston
Tuesday, 25 January 2000

http://www.marxist.com/documentary-nato-lies-kosovo.htm

Friday, 22 June, 2001, 16:53 GMT 17:53 UK
Allies and lies

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/correspondent/1390536.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/correspondent/1390536.stm

Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_the_Americas

Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation

http://www.answers.com/topic/western-hemisphere-institute-for-security-cooperation


53 posted on 09/29/2006 1:48:04 PM PDT by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Hi thanks, your post looks intriguing (and long! haha) and I've been super swamped today.. and the weekend isn't looking much better, but I'll be back as soon as I can catch my breath!


54 posted on 09/29/2006 6:04:00 PM PDT by HeartOfDixie56 (Roll, Tide, Roll... (please?))
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To: Mr. Silverback

Yikes. Those findings would appear to represent some REAL facts. I'm impressed!


55 posted on 09/29/2006 9:51:18 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: laweeks

No I opt for murdering heathens, personally.

But hey, I may be overstating. /sarc


56 posted on 09/29/2006 9:54:08 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468

Well, as long as you ask.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710990/posts?page=40#40


57 posted on 09/29/2006 9:55:49 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Coleus

Thank you for the link. That site is well-documented and loaded with citations. Long read, but I'm going to make sure this gets out.


58 posted on 09/30/2006 12:21:51 AM PDT by Lexinom (www.VoteYesForLife.com -- the only chance?)
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To: babygene
Right, people don't go to jail because they are democrats, they go to jail because they commit crimes. And who commits crimes? Mostly poor people. Most of the inmates are gang bangers, drug dealers, drug users, armed robbers, muggers, purse snatchers, home and car burglars. Does he really think most of these people are actually republicans?
59 posted on 10/03/2006 2:01:05 PM PDT by Coleus (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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