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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday 09-28-2006
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 09-28-2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1709588/posts?page=1

House passes detainee bill

Republicans pushed a bill supported by President George W. Bush to set rules for interrogating and trying terrorism suspects through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday and Senate Republicans were expected to follow within a day.

The House passed the bill 253-168 largely along party lines, dismissing warnings from Democrats that courts would strike down the plan for failing to meet judicial standards.

Republicans who control both chambers want to send the bill to Bush by the weekend, when lawmakers head out to campaign for November elections that will determine control of Congress.

The bill sets up procedures to try foreign terrorism suspects at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Supreme Court struck down Bush's original plan, saying it violated U.S. and international standards.

As Senate debate on the bill got under way, Republicans defeated an attempt to pass an alternative that Democrats said would meet Supreme Court standards and help restore America's image, damaged by harsh treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Senate was expected to pass the bill on Thursday, after considering several other amendments.

Republicans, seeking to polish their terrorism-fighting credentials in the final days of their campaigns, depicted the new rules as tough but fair.

"By formally establishing terrorist tribunals, the bill provides a critical tool in fighting the war on terror and it provides a measure of justice to the victims of 9/11," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, said the bill provides "basic fairness in our prosecutions but we also preserve the ability of our war fighters to operate effectively on the battlefield."

But Human rights groups and many Democrats said the deal gave Bush too much latitude to allow harsh interrogations and to deprive detainees of legal rights.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, said agreeing to "such an ambiguous compromise would allow the president to define torture when and how he sees fit."

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat, said the bill sends a signal that "America's leaders are willing to abandon our values ... in favor of thuggish tactics they hope might make them safer for a little while."

Democrats also predicted the courts would find the bill unconstitutional because it deprived detainees held without charges of the right to file legal challenges to their imprisonment.

Under a compromise worked out last week, the CIA will be able to continue aggressive interrogations, but supporters of the bill said agency interrogators would comply with the Geneva Conventions' requirement for humane treatment.

The bill also expands the definition of "enemy combatants," who can be held indefinitely without charges, to include those who knowingly support terrorist groups with arms, money and other activities.

Backers of the bill said that provision would choke off supplies to terrorist groups, but critics said it was too broad and could subject many more people to indefinite detention.


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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yup. Bunch of commie crooks. The Dailey legacy continues. Offer still stands, Texas will welcome you with open arms. :) We can trade you for a Travis county liberal and make a net 2 gain. :)


601 posted on 09/28/2006 12:24:37 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: American Quilter

Boy and how. What a crock. Choice my butt.


602 posted on 09/28/2006 12:25:49 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Geeze 70%??? Unbelievable. He must not say what he really thinks too often. :) And I'm assuming that he is a real liberal, not a rarely found few and far between fiscal and somewhat social conservative Democrat right?


603 posted on 09/28/2006 12:27:01 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: eeevil conservative

I hope this is the case. If I was a CITGO station owner, I'd sure be looking for the door and other sources for product. :)


604 posted on 09/28/2006 12:32:13 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: bwteim

Yeah it's funny seeing all the things they wanted the election to be about are going against the, gas, economy, DOW, and now they're having to use the war, and that's their weak suit. :) It's really funny.


605 posted on 09/28/2006 12:33:54 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

No, I understand, it's just sad that what he does for the state gets him a pass for how liberal and anti-conservative he his. That's really annoying. His replacement will be hard pressed to get away with that I think since he won't have done squat for WV, and his liberal spew won't be easily swallowed by the voters, I hope. :)


606 posted on 09/28/2006 12:35:06 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Roccus

Will sure be rooting for that. :) Talk to you later. Take care. :)


607 posted on 09/28/2006 12:35:42 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: RasterMaster

Yes, that's a good thing to know the enemy. I'd like a copy to check out but I don't know if my wife would allow me to have pornography in the house. ;)


608 posted on 09/28/2006 12:36:43 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; eeevil conservative
"How much will EC 24/7 cost?"


609 posted on 09/28/2006 12:51:27 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: MNJohnnie

LOL!!

dang that sounds so good right now...my boss just ripped me....ugh!

over doing something I told him I was going to do- and he liked it at the time... but now someone made fun of him.. and he is not so happy- UGH!

MEN! LOL!

j/k

;-)

MUAH! I so would love a hug right now!


610 posted on 09/28/2006 12:57:46 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: RasterMaster

LOL!!


611 posted on 09/28/2006 12:59:12 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: eeevil conservative

Do you know the Preamble for your state?


Alabama 1901, Preamble. We the people of the State of Alabama, invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution.

Alaska 1956, Preamble. We, the people of Alaska, grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land.

Arizona 1911, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution...

Arkansas 1874, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Arkansas, grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government...

California 1879, Preamble. We, the People of the State of California, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom.

Colorado 1876, Preamble. We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe.

Connecticut 1818, Preamble. The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy.

Delaware 1897, Preamble. Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshiping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences.

Florida 1885, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Florida, grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution...

Georgia 1777, Preamble. We, the people of Georgia, relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution...

Hawaii 1959, Preamble. We , the people of Hawaii, Grateful for Divine Guidance ... Establish this Constitution.

Idaho 1889, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Idaho, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings.

Illinois 1870, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil l, political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.
Indiana 1851, Preamble. We, the People of the State of Indiana, grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government.

Iowa 1857, Preamble We, the People of the State of Iowa, grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings establish this Constitution.

Kansas 1859, Preamble. We, the people of Kansas, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges establish this Constitution.

Kentucky 1891, Preamble. We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties...

Louisiana 1921, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Louisiana, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy.

Maine 1820, Preamble. We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity ... And imploring His aid and direction.

Maryland 1776, Preamble We, the people of the state of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty...

Massachusetts 1780, Preamble. We...the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe .. In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction ..

Michigan 1908, Preamble . We, the people of the State of Michigan, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom establish this Constitution.

Minnesota, 1857, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings:

Mississippi 1890, Preamble. We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to Al mighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.

Missouri 1845, Preamble. We, the people of Missouri, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness . Establish this Constitution .

Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution ...

Nebraska 1875, Preamble. We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom .. Establish this Constitution.

Nevada 1864, Preamble. We the people of the State of Nevada, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom establish this Constitution

New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V. Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience.

New Jersey 1844, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.

New Mexico 1911, Preamble. We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty

New York 1846, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New York, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.

North Carolina 1868, Preamble. We the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those

North Dakota 1889, Preamble. We , the people of North Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...

Ohio 1852, Preamble. We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common

Oklahoma 1907, Preamble. Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty ... establish this

Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I. Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences..

Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance

Rhode Island 1842, Preamble. We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing

South Carolina, 1778, Preamble. We, the people of he State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution.

South Dakota 1889, Preamble. We, the people of South Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties

Tennessee 1796, Art. XI.III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience...

Texas 1845, Preamble. We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.

Utah 1896, Preamble. Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution.

Vermont 1777, Preamble. Whereas all government ought to enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man .

Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other

Washington 1889, Preamble. We the People of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution

West Virginia 1872, Preamble. Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God ..

Wisconsin 1848, Preamble. We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility

Wyoming 1890, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Wyoming, grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties .. establish this Constitution.




After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions, one is faced with the prospect that maybe, the ACLU and the out -of-control federal courts are wrong! If you found this to be "Food for thought.." copy and send to as many as you think will be enlightened as I hope you were.

Please note that at no time is anyone told that they MUST worship God.

"Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." - William Penn


612 posted on 09/28/2006 1:06:47 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: eeevil conservative

Big warm fuzzy hug!


613 posted on 09/28/2006 1:20:29 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Thanks....

I needed that more than you know...


614 posted on 09/28/2006 1:28:52 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: OESY
How long have you listened to Rush?

He was NOT serious when making those comments to his staff. It was CLEARLY a jab at Clinton's rage at his staff after he lost it on Fox.

I was watching Rush on the Ditto Cam and it was clearly Rush at his sarcastic, comical best.

The 'stick it where the sun don't shine' comment was made to an email that Rush read at the end of the show. That is what you responded to from me, I hadn't even commented on the other stuff.

Got it straight now? :)

615 posted on 09/28/2006 5:24:52 PM PDT by NewLand (Always Remember September 11, 2001)
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To: ct_libertarian

Somehow I don't expect that Mozart wrote into his opera the scene where King Idomeneo presents the lopped-off heads of Poseidon, Jesus, Buddha and the Prophet Mohammed and displays them on four chairs.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/09/25/060925192943.tqohhg8j.html

The opera was re-written specifically to stir up trouble ... You may wish to consider if this production might have been written by fanatical Muslims in order to stir up trouble. ( That IS what they are after, you recall )


616 posted on 09/28/2006 7:50:56 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: MNJohnnie

Is the story on TO where he went off on that " some people build up a tolerance to the drugs" speech ? ( Just heard bits and pieces of him today )


617 posted on 09/28/2006 8:31:42 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: NewLand

Thank you so much for your clarification. Now I know that either you or he were joking. May I suggest that the problem lies with those who don't listen rather than those who do?


618 posted on 09/29/2006 5:09:08 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

you may.


619 posted on 09/29/2006 9:29:12 AM PDT by NewLand (Always Remember September 11, 2001)
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