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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday 09-28-2006
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 09-28-2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1709588/posts?page=1

House passes detainee bill

Republicans pushed a bill supported by President George W. Bush to set rules for interrogating and trying terrorism suspects through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday and Senate Republicans were expected to follow within a day.

The House passed the bill 253-168 largely along party lines, dismissing warnings from Democrats that courts would strike down the plan for failing to meet judicial standards.

Republicans who control both chambers want to send the bill to Bush by the weekend, when lawmakers head out to campaign for November elections that will determine control of Congress.

The bill sets up procedures to try foreign terrorism suspects at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Supreme Court struck down Bush's original plan, saying it violated U.S. and international standards.

As Senate debate on the bill got under way, Republicans defeated an attempt to pass an alternative that Democrats said would meet Supreme Court standards and help restore America's image, damaged by harsh treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Senate was expected to pass the bill on Thursday, after considering several other amendments.

Republicans, seeking to polish their terrorism-fighting credentials in the final days of their campaigns, depicted the new rules as tough but fair.

"By formally establishing terrorist tribunals, the bill provides a critical tool in fighting the war on terror and it provides a measure of justice to the victims of 9/11," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, said the bill provides "basic fairness in our prosecutions but we also preserve the ability of our war fighters to operate effectively on the battlefield."

But Human rights groups and many Democrats said the deal gave Bush too much latitude to allow harsh interrogations and to deprive detainees of legal rights.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, said agreeing to "such an ambiguous compromise would allow the president to define torture when and how he sees fit."

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat, said the bill sends a signal that "America's leaders are willing to abandon our values ... in favor of thuggish tactics they hope might make them safer for a little while."

Democrats also predicted the courts would find the bill unconstitutional because it deprived detainees held without charges of the right to file legal challenges to their imprisonment.

Under a compromise worked out last week, the CIA will be able to continue aggressive interrogations, but supporters of the bill said agency interrogators would comply with the Geneva Conventions' requirement for humane treatment.

The bill also expands the definition of "enemy combatants," who can be held indefinitely without charges, to include those who knowingly support terrorist groups with arms, money and other activities.

Backers of the bill said that provision would choke off supplies to terrorist groups, but critics said it was too broad and could subject many more people to indefinite detention.


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To: eeevil conservative
Is it War on Terror or Crusade?
561 posted on 09/28/2006 11:58:39 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: Sensei Ern

LOL!!!

that must be real bad! LOL!


562 posted on 09/28/2006 11:58:40 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: eeevil conservative

Ta all. If you save me a seat, I may stop in at the Lounge.


563 posted on 09/28/2006 11:58:51 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: eeevil conservative

Being a co-host will make it easier. I dare you to take an electric whoopie cushion on air with you.


564 posted on 09/28/2006 11:59:02 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: eeevil conservative
Don't sweat it with another host it's not that bad, my last full time gig was three hours at a remote location by myself with live sponsor spots.
565 posted on 09/28/2006 11:59:29 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Roccus

I wish they would run hard against Burd, I could give a fuzzy rip that he voted for Alito. His vote wasn't needed. Thank him, then run hard against him. That's a stupid political decision and quite annoying. Do you think if re-elected in November, that the DEmocrat taking over when he dies/retires over the next six year could be defeated by a conservative Republican in 2012? Or would the new lib Democrat have their claws dug in deep as an incumbant and never get booted out? I hope when Byrd is gone the Governor picks such a flaming anti-war lib pro gay marriage pro abortion liberal that there's now way he can get re-elected. A Code Pink anti-war lesbian liberal Senator who fights for partial birth abortions up to the due date would be my pick for Burd's replacement if the Democrat Governor picks the replacement. That person would be very hard for the Democrats to re-elect.


566 posted on 09/28/2006 11:59:33 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: eeevil conservative; rodguy911
I'm sure the IT guy and his boss really appreciated the little "outburst"!


567 posted on 09/28/2006 11:59:49 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: eeevil conservative

How much will EC 24/7 cost?


568 posted on 09/28/2006 12:00:04 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: RasterMaster

Priceless.


569 posted on 09/28/2006 12:00:50 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: TexasPatriot8

You don't understand Byrd dose too much for West Virginia


570 posted on 09/28/2006 12:00:52 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

great end to the show..."stick it were the sun don't shine"...


571 posted on 09/28/2006 12:01:38 PM PDT by NewLand (Always Remember September 11, 2001)
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To: rodguy911

572 posted on 09/28/2006 12:01:55 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: rush
OK, Would people who know nothing about Counter Insurgency get a GRIP? The key to Counter Insurgency is to build a counter political position to the Insurgents political system.

Conventional troops are taught to kill people and wreck stuff. That fine for Conventional War, it is an utterly stupid way to fight a Counter Insurgency. Ask the Russians how it worked for them in Afghanistan.

The ROE are designated to LIMIT the collateral damage. Do the rules go too far some times? Probably. But that is the problem with any rule, there are going to be times you need to throw it away. All unlimited use of fire power accomplishes in a Counter Insurgency mission is to polarize the locals, marginalizes your local allies, serve as a golden recruitment tool for your foes and discredit your efforts in peoples eyes both there and at home..
573 posted on 09/28/2006 12:02:36 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: StoneWall Brigade
He does too much FOR or TO WV?
574 posted on 09/28/2006 12:02:40 PM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: eeevil conservative

Can we talk about that hot bloodedness for a bit :-)


575 posted on 09/28/2006 12:03:27 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: Sensei Ern

If you can't find one, just link to this site:
http://www.misternicehands.com/


576 posted on 09/28/2006 12:03:28 PM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

LOL!


577 posted on 09/28/2006 12:03:50 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: RasterMaster
That one is so good i actually saw that about a year ago, good as it gets.
578 posted on 09/28/2006 12:03:57 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Sensei Ern

Sorry He dose a Lot for West Virginia


579 posted on 09/28/2006 12:04:10 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: Roccus

YAY!

That would be great!


580 posted on 09/28/2006 12:04:13 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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