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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday 09-28-2006
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 09-28-2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1709588/posts?page=1

House passes detainee bill

Republicans pushed a bill supported by President George W. Bush to set rules for interrogating and trying terrorism suspects through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday and Senate Republicans were expected to follow within a day.

The House passed the bill 253-168 largely along party lines, dismissing warnings from Democrats that courts would strike down the plan for failing to meet judicial standards.

Republicans who control both chambers want to send the bill to Bush by the weekend, when lawmakers head out to campaign for November elections that will determine control of Congress.

The bill sets up procedures to try foreign terrorism suspects at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Supreme Court struck down Bush's original plan, saying it violated U.S. and international standards.

As Senate debate on the bill got under way, Republicans defeated an attempt to pass an alternative that Democrats said would meet Supreme Court standards and help restore America's image, damaged by harsh treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Senate was expected to pass the bill on Thursday, after considering several other amendments.

Republicans, seeking to polish their terrorism-fighting credentials in the final days of their campaigns, depicted the new rules as tough but fair.

"By formally establishing terrorist tribunals, the bill provides a critical tool in fighting the war on terror and it provides a measure of justice to the victims of 9/11," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, said the bill provides "basic fairness in our prosecutions but we also preserve the ability of our war fighters to operate effectively on the battlefield."

But Human rights groups and many Democrats said the deal gave Bush too much latitude to allow harsh interrogations and to deprive detainees of legal rights.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, said agreeing to "such an ambiguous compromise would allow the president to define torture when and how he sees fit."

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat, said the bill sends a signal that "America's leaders are willing to abandon our values ... in favor of thuggish tactics they hope might make them safer for a little while."

Democrats also predicted the courts would find the bill unconstitutional because it deprived detainees held without charges of the right to file legal challenges to their imprisonment.

Under a compromise worked out last week, the CIA will be able to continue aggressive interrogations, but supporters of the bill said agency interrogators would comply with the Geneva Conventions' requirement for humane treatment.

The bill also expands the definition of "enemy combatants," who can be held indefinitely without charges, to include those who knowingly support terrorist groups with arms, money and other activities.

Backers of the bill said that provision would choke off supplies to terrorist groups, but critics said it was too broad and could subject many more people to indefinite detention.


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To: TexasPatriot8

WOOO HOOO!!

YES!

I LOVE IT!


441 posted on 09/28/2006 11:17:54 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (STEVE KING /JOHN BOLTON FOR '08...Ann picks King...I pick Bolton!)
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To: OESY

Clinton and Algore weren't ever built like that on their best day. Still funny. :)


442 posted on 09/28/2006 11:18:08 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

Bye Rush. NO one cares about TO it is a total irrelevent noise story.


443 posted on 09/28/2006 11:18:21 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Amen To That!


444 posted on 09/28/2006 11:19:07 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: TexasPatriot8
Gov Manchin is a Dem. He would appoint a Dem should Byrd get elected and not finish his term. I don' think finishing the term is in the cards for Byrd. The people of WV realize this and the fact that his seniority is not transferable to the appointed replacement so a change to a Republican would have no down side as far as Senatorial clout goes. Now, the people of WV are beholden to Byrd for all the Fed (read our) money and jobs he brought into the state. But these folk are also a very patriotic lot. The ones that I associate with, many of them life long Dems, have not liked the things he has been saying over the last few years. I think their votes for Bush in the last two Presidential elections prove this. As I said earlier, there is always the "thank you" vote, but I think if ever there was a time to defeat Byrd, now is it. Also in play is the rumor going around here that The RNC and the Administration is taking a "hands off" approach to this election as a quid pro quo to Byrd for his vote on Alito.
445 posted on 09/28/2006 11:19:35 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: rush

Why ruin an average show with T.O. junk, let the tabloid media do that.


446 posted on 09/28/2006 11:20:45 AM PDT by Current Occupant (DBM, Libs, 5th column,PC will destroy this country. Preach it TALKIES while you still can!!!!!!)
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To: Roccus

In other words there selling John down the river?


447 posted on 09/28/2006 11:21:20 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Politicians playing politics.


448 posted on 09/28/2006 11:23:01 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: MNJohnnie; All

would someone please inform Rush, an allergic reaction NEVER occurs the first time one is exposed to a compound, protein, bacteria, whatever. The mechanics of an allergy require the immune system to "incorrectly categorize" a substance as a harmful agent. The body will only react with an allergic reaction subsequently, whether the 2nd time, the 17th time, the 1000th time.


449 posted on 09/28/2006 11:23:23 AM PDT by olde north church (Happy 10th Anniversary, FreeRepublic.com 9-23-2006)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Gas is 2.37 in my area. We are fourth on the list of being taxed the most on gas.

It's $2.54 here. I'm very crabby. We pay 40 cents a gallon in taxes.

450 posted on 09/28/2006 11:23:28 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: American Quilter

We're still 2.59 - 2.69


451 posted on 09/28/2006 11:24:58 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

I've also spoken to Republicans who just don't trust Raese. Nothing tangible, just gut feelings is what they say.


452 posted on 09/28/2006 11:25:03 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: Roccus

I see


453 posted on 09/28/2006 11:25:24 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: MNJohnnie
I agree. I think 50K-75K enemy KIA from all sources, Hussein radicals and foreign terrorists ALL groups, is MUCH more accurate the past 3 and 1/2 years. The day that that is made clear, opposition to Iraq will be a losing effort, because that illustrates about a 22 to 1 kill ration in the favor of the U.S. Military and Allied forces there, and that's many tens of thousands of terrorists that were killed in Iraq and NOT able to fight us in Afghanistan and God forbid, HERE in America.

I just wish we'd give Musharif the ultimatum that if he's not going to send the Pakistani military into NW Pakistan on the border with Afghanistan and shut down the Taliban and Al Qaeda and Islamic Jihad and other Islamo-Fascist areas, then he needs to show us where his military IS in control, and give us tacit authorization to bomb the h**l out of those areas when we find enemy groups. That's what I wish. I'd also ask when Musharif is planning to have full and free open elections in Pakistan since he became "President" after the military coup, and he was never really elected. I'm so sick of these people like him, and Ahmadinejad and Hussein and Jong-Il and other tyrants taking the title of President when their countries do NOT have democracies in their countries, and they were NOT elected with the majority of votes of the people in full free elections. It's offensive to those countries that the majority of the civilian populous actually ELECTED their Presidents.

454 posted on 09/28/2006 11:25:27 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: American Quilter

$2.259 here this AM


455 posted on 09/28/2006 11:25:57 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Jimmeh Cateh is so stinking senile I think every time he opens his mouth about Bush and Rumsfeld, he doesn't even realize that he's spoken about them befrore. He's such an old fart and is about 20 years past acceptable shelf life for being listened to.


456 posted on 09/28/2006 11:26:29 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: American Quilter

Tokyo Rose was a traitor. SHe should never have seen the light of day after her capture.


457 posted on 09/28/2006 11:26:29 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: Roccus
Also in play is the rumor going around here that The RNC and the Administration is taking a "hands off" approach to this election as a quid pro quo to Byrd for his vote on Alito.

Thanks for that info, Roccus. I have a better understanding of the Byrd situation now.

458 posted on 09/28/2006 11:26:31 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Exactly right. I'm surprised they didn't only admit to one less then we've lost. I'm surprise they were straight enough to admit they've lost more then we have. If the truth was known how many terrorists and anti-democratic insurgents have been killed by our brave guys and gals in Iraq, opposition for the war would melt like a snow ball in Death Valley in July.


459 posted on 09/28/2006 11:28:07 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

We have that different blend crap.


460 posted on 09/28/2006 11:28:16 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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