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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday 09-28-2006
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 09-28-2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 8:54:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1709588/posts?page=1

House passes detainee bill

Republicans pushed a bill supported by President George W. Bush to set rules for interrogating and trying terrorism suspects through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday and Senate Republicans were expected to follow within a day.

The House passed the bill 253-168 largely along party lines, dismissing warnings from Democrats that courts would strike down the plan for failing to meet judicial standards.

Republicans who control both chambers want to send the bill to Bush by the weekend, when lawmakers head out to campaign for November elections that will determine control of Congress.

The bill sets up procedures to try foreign terrorism suspects at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Supreme Court struck down Bush's original plan, saying it violated U.S. and international standards.

As Senate debate on the bill got under way, Republicans defeated an attempt to pass an alternative that Democrats said would meet Supreme Court standards and help restore America's image, damaged by harsh treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay and abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

The Senate was expected to pass the bill on Thursday, after considering several other amendments.

Republicans, seeking to polish their terrorism-fighting credentials in the final days of their campaigns, depicted the new rules as tough but fair.

"By formally establishing terrorist tribunals, the bill provides a critical tool in fighting the war on terror and it provides a measure of justice to the victims of 9/11," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, said the bill provides "basic fairness in our prosecutions but we also preserve the ability of our war fighters to operate effectively on the battlefield."

But Human rights groups and many Democrats said the deal gave Bush too much latitude to allow harsh interrogations and to deprive detainees of legal rights.

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, said agreeing to "such an ambiguous compromise would allow the president to define torture when and how he sees fit."

Rep. Louise Slaughter, a New York Democrat, said the bill sends a signal that "America's leaders are willing to abandon our values ... in favor of thuggish tactics they hope might make them safer for a little while."

Democrats also predicted the courts would find the bill unconstitutional because it deprived detainees held without charges of the right to file legal challenges to their imprisonment.

Under a compromise worked out last week, the CIA will be able to continue aggressive interrogations, but supporters of the bill said agency interrogators would comply with the Geneva Conventions' requirement for humane treatment.

The bill also expands the definition of "enemy combatants," who can be held indefinitely without charges, to include those who knowingly support terrorist groups with arms, money and other activities.

Backers of the bill said that provision would choke off supplies to terrorist groups, but critics said it was too broad and could subject many more people to indefinite detention.


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To: angcat

I like Ms. Pirro and I wouldn't blame her if she dumped that lowlife husband of hers. Who knows, it might even help her chances of winning!


401 posted on 09/28/2006 10:51:04 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Islam is the Death Cult of Perpetual Outrage!)
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To: aligncare
pssst.....pictures?
402 posted on 09/28/2006 10:52:21 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (If you speak against your own, you have chosen the wrong side.)
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To: Current Occupant
Imagine that, not losing by...winning!

If we could just convince the Dems to pull out of the political races. We would promise to give them the win. We would still be elected, but they get to claim the win.

403 posted on 09/28/2006 10:53:48 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: Sensei Ern

LOL. I think you're on to something there.


404 posted on 09/28/2006 10:55:11 AM PDT by Current Occupant (DBM, Libs, 5th column,PC will destroy this country. Preach it TALKIES while you still can!!!!!!)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I like her also; she was good for Westchester County.


405 posted on 09/28/2006 10:56:34 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet


New Democrat Party logo

406 posted on 09/28/2006 11:00:02 AM PDT by OESY
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To: Sensei Ern

WFLA needs to reset their advertisement timer. They are cutting Rush off in mid-sentence.


407 posted on 09/28/2006 11:00:21 AM PDT by hattend (Anytime you see a union building, think of it as a branch office of the Democratic Party. - Rush)
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To: hattend

I have the same problem


408 posted on 09/28/2006 11:00:53 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: OESY

I'd like to order a Pizza


409 posted on 09/28/2006 11:01:47 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: MaestroLC

See this about Allen and Guiliani;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1709893/posts


410 posted on 09/28/2006 11:03:04 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Jimmy Carter won't shut up about Rumsfeld.

He won't shut up period.

411 posted on 09/28/2006 11:03:50 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: MaestroLC

What cogent human listens?


412 posted on 09/28/2006 11:04:31 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. [Stolen from FReeper Stallone])
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To: MaestroLC

He rarely talks about 3 Mile Island or the Iranian hostages(other than the ones in Gitmo).


413 posted on 09/28/2006 11:05:04 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: Roccus

DO you think Byrd might actually not get reeleced? Is the Governor a Republican? I totally can't remember. Would be a great way to get a Republican in the Senate if he is. :) And once in, that person would likely hold the seat. What's your take, as you are there, on all that?


414 posted on 09/28/2006 11:07:14 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Yeah I think that 4000 is dramatically low.


415 posted on 09/28/2006 11:07:50 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

Nope Joe is a Dem


416 posted on 09/28/2006 11:08:26 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: All

The REAL "new hope" for Democrats in the Senate is that they won't lose more than a seat or two. Allen will win. And the only GOPers that might lose are RINOS who if they lose it will because the conservatives in those states are isck and tired of RINOs and just aren't energized to vote for them.


417 posted on 09/28/2006 11:08:59 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Kerretarded

I'm searching the net...but, those pictures must be under lock and key...can't locate any that could pass the mods...sorry.

;-(


418 posted on 09/28/2006 11:09:32 AM PDT by aligncare (This time Islam picked the wrong century and the wrong continent to attack)
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To: All

Rush talking about this:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060928/hewlett_packard_directors.html?.v=24


419 posted on 09/28/2006 11:09:50 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5184957822303751144&q=bad+day


420 posted on 09/28/2006 11:11:00 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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