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Mitt Romney lies about abortion
Red State ^

Posted on 09/27/2006 11:07:20 AM PDT by SDGOP

In his latest interview with RedState, Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney responds to a question about his abortion position by saying that he's never adopted the label "pro-choice."

That's all well and good. Mitt Romney wants to be called pro-life. I'd like to be the King of all Londinium and wear a shiny hat.

But let's not kid ourselves: there is no substantive difference between the position labeled "pro-choice," declaring your support for "the right to choose." And that is something that Mitt Romney has done repeatedly over the course of his political career. To say otherwise is to tell a lie.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


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To: MikeA
"What a truly bigoted and narrow minded reason not to vote for someone. Really shameful. I'm not necessarily going to vote for this guy, but to hold someone's religious commitments and service against them is the height of mean-spiritedness. To me it would be like a liberal saying "I won't vote for so-and-so because he was an Iraq War veteran and murdered babies.""

I don't like it when Mormon's come to my door and try to convert me, and I assume that many other people don't as well. It is an inconsiderate form of personal behavior. It may not be as bad as some people of other religions have done (i.e. the "Religion of Peace"), but out of 300,000,000 choices I think I'd prefer someone who hadn't done it.
21 posted on 09/27/2006 11:22:25 AM PDT by Moral Hazard ("That's why I vetoed the 'Johny can't read so let's get Johny laid' bill" - Mr. President)
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To: MikeA

But that's the beauty of our system, we can do just that. I won't vote for him because he's Mormon. And that's my right. Shaming people for not being able to in good conscious vote for someone that belongs to what many consider a cult is hardly a valid argument.

I wouldn't vote for someone who is Islamic either - based on that fact alone.


22 posted on 09/27/2006 11:22:27 AM PDT by justche (If you're afraid of the future, then get out of the way, stand aside. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: rhombus

Bump.


23 posted on 09/27/2006 11:23:03 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: mpackard

I've watched Romney very closely in Massachusetts and haven't seen him do anything to ADVANCE abortion. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Yes it can be argued that he did little to reverse the laws governing abortion but in Mass that's a losing issue and would have hurt some of the other things he needed to try and accomplish. Clinton? You know she's going to ADVANCE abortion in many ways. Dubya, I think said it best. You have to change people's hearts first.


24 posted on 09/27/2006 11:23:08 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Moral Hazard
I might vote for a Mormon who hadn't done a mission, but I don't think I could ever vote for one who had.

So you would vote for a "bad" Mormon but not a "good" one?
25 posted on 09/27/2006 11:23:53 AM PDT by msnimje (Seriously, if it REALLY were a religion of PEACE, would they have to label it as such?)
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To: conservative_2001
But the way he's acting now it looks like a convenient switcheroo to make himself a more palatable candidate for President.

He was for abortion before he was against it.

Seems to be a lot of that going on in that state.

26 posted on 09/27/2006 11:24:19 AM PDT by Protagoras (Billy only tried to kill Bin Laden, he actually succeeded with Ron Brown and Vince Foster.)
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To: Moral Hazard

During the same two years he was going door-to-door annoying people in France, I was going door-to-door annoying people in Japan for the same reason, and I won't vote for him either. I think he sold out his religion (and mine) by taking up a morally repugnant position just to get elected. The elder can't be trusted.


27 posted on 09/27/2006 11:24:33 AM PDT by baal2006
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To: Sloth

Not the point. The title says he lied. Show the lie.


28 posted on 09/27/2006 11:24:40 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Cant get a drivers license so you can vote for Democrats? Go Greyhound, bitches!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Genius, i'm hardly a DU Troll. And i don't hate romney, he's second on my list. Read the actual article if you want to see romney is pro choice, if you hadn't notice because your blinders were on, it said this was an excerpt.

here's a few in the actual article if you were interested:

"I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice."

"I respect and will fully protect a woman's right to choose. That choice is a deeply personal one, and the women of our state should make it based on their beliefs, not mine and not the government's."
-Mitt Romney in a 2002 GOP acceptance speech

Gubernatorial candidates Shannon O'Brien and Mitt Romney sparred yesterday over who was the strongest abortion rights supporter by touting endorsements from abortion rights groups and challenging each other's records on the issue..."There isn't a dime of difference between Mitt Romney's position on choice and [NARAL-endorsed] Shannon O'Brien," said Kerry Healey, Romney's running mate. Lynn Grefe, director of the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, applauded Romney's "commitment to family planning and protecting a woman's right to choose" in a letter on Wednesday.

Romney has plenty of other socially liberal quotes and various other things, its silly of you to stick your head in the ground and pretend they never happened. My point was, romney should have just admitted he said he was pro choice in the past and has changed his mind, instead he wobbled around and claimed he never had that label.


29 posted on 09/27/2006 11:25:45 AM PDT by SDGOP
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To: conservative_2001; All

Maybe, but can't people evolve and after looking at an issue decide they were once on the wrong side of it? I know I've changed several of my views over the years, not out of political expediency since I have not and will never run for office, but simply because as I studied them I realized I was on the wrong side of a few things. I'm saying all this and I'm not necessarily supporting Romney in 08. He's one of several I'm considering supporting and haven't made a decision yet.

Romney claims he switched his abortion position after discovering the lack of respect for human life while studying the stem cell and cloning issues among those in the scientific community. He realized that attitude is pervasive among some in the medical and research communities and felt he needed to re-evaluate his position on abortion, which was that he was personally opposed to it but felt government should not have a role in it.

So really, his personal position on abortion didn't change. He was always personally opposed to the practice. Only his views on the public role in the decision-making. I think it's an honest switch one could make. And in the end, nothing he did as governor that I'm aware of in any way furthered the availability of abortion.

If Romney were in the habit of constantly changing positions like John Kerry, then he could I think be truly said to be a flip flopper. But I think most intelligent and thinking adults have at one time or another changed position on an issue or two. I can allow Romney this one. At least he's come over to the right side of things on it.


30 posted on 09/27/2006 11:25:52 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: SDGOP

Some Republicans may consider Romney a conservative. Whether Romney is a principled conservative is a matter for further debate.


31 posted on 09/27/2006 11:26:31 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Moral Hazard

"door-to-door annoying people"

You must be sick if you are referring to his religion and the fact that he was a missionary? It sucks? - You suck!


32 posted on 09/27/2006 11:27:12 AM PDT by razzle
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To: Pukin Dog

If you read the article closely instead of jumping around with your faux outrage, you'd see the reason the poster stated romney lied is because during the interview, romney stated

"I've never called myself pro-choice."
-Mitt Romney in a 2006 Redstate interview

The quotes provided by the author clearly contradict this. Redstate is hardly an anti romney organ, in fact you could probably call them romneystate since they pump him up so much.


33 posted on 09/27/2006 11:27:55 AM PDT by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP
Romney says he never called himself pro-choice. Show me a quote where he did, or admit that the title of this post is flawed. You cant say "Well, he never actually SAID IT, but I know what he meant, so he LIED." That is DU tactics. We can do better.
34 posted on 09/27/2006 11:28:00 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Cant get a drivers license so you can vote for Democrats? Go Greyhound, bitches!)
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To: SteveMcKing; Moral Hazard

I wouldn't have voted for Reagan if he'd come out of Massachusetts.

That place is cursed with scum of the earth politicians. This "pro-choice" blurb by Romney is simply one more confirmation.

The conservative Christian choice at this moment has to be Frist. The most articulate conservative is Gingrich. The most likely to easily win is Cheney. (yeah, I know he's not running....)


35 posted on 09/27/2006 11:28:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Pukin Dog
It took Google .29 seconds to find MANY sites.

Here's a quotation from

Issues 2000 website

He said the abortion made him see "that regardless of one's beliefs about choice, you would hope it would be safe and legal." Source: Joe Battenfeld in Boston Herald Oct 26, 1994

Yes, it is a hit piece. Just like a smokers' group might run a hit piece on Bloomberg. It happens to be an accurate hit piece.
36 posted on 09/27/2006 11:28:37 AM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Pukin Dog

It's a hit piece from Red State--Which makes it even sadder.

Romney is tough on Terrorism, fiscally conservative, pro-family. Romney says he is Pro Life. I believe him.

Go Mitt Go!!!


37 posted on 09/27/2006 11:28:43 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: Reagan Man

Yes, that is true. Romney may call himself a conservative now, but has he been all his life? Based on his history i would say no, he ran away from the conservative label when he ran for election both times in MA. Only now that he wants to be president he's jumping the conservative bandwagon.


38 posted on 09/27/2006 11:29:02 AM PDT by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP

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39 posted on 09/27/2006 11:29:18 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: msnimje

"So you would vote for a "bad" Mormon but not a "good" one?"

If the distinction is whether they did a mission, then yes.


40 posted on 09/27/2006 11:29:27 AM PDT by Moral Hazard ("That's why I vetoed the 'Johny can't read so let's get Johny laid' bill" - Mr. President)
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