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Mitt Romney lies about abortion
Red State ^

Posted on 09/27/2006 11:07:20 AM PDT by SDGOP

In his latest interview with RedState, Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney responds to a question about his abortion position by saying that he's never adopted the label "pro-choice."

That's all well and good. Mitt Romney wants to be called pro-life. I'd like to be the King of all Londinium and wear a shiny hat.

But let's not kid ourselves: there is no substantive difference between the position labeled "pro-choice," declaring your support for "the right to choose." And that is something that Mitt Romney has done repeatedly over the course of his political career. To say otherwise is to tell a lie.

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To: teddyballgame

I understand that many FReepers consider Romney a RINO. Not me. From what I've seen so far, Romney is conservative on some issues and more moderate on other issues. Its to what extent Romney's conservatism is of a principled nature that I'm questioning.


181 posted on 09/27/2006 12:39:31 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: conservative blonde

Dear conservative blonde,

"I can truly see how someone can and does come to a pro-life stance after understanding just what embryonic stem cell experimentation is all about."

Many things are possible.

But this one doesn't seem very likely.

So, Mr. Romney is a pro-abort from 1970 until some time after 2002, in spite of over a million abortions per year every year from the mid-1970s on.

He is pro-abort in spite of the legality of partial birth abortion, which is nothing more than pure infanticide.

He is a pro-abort in spite of the fact that abortion is not only legal in the first trimester, but in the second, the third, and even during birth.

He is pro-abort in spite of every statistic showing that fewer than 4% of abortions are performed in circumstances of rape, incest, genetic deformity, or the life of the mother.

But killing a few hundred embryonic human beings for parts suddenly converts him on the issue of life.

Like I said, it's possible.

But coming after he's decided not to run again in (pro-abort) Massachusetts, but rather for the presidential nomination of the (pro-life) Republican Party, you will excuse the rest of us if we hold his "conversion" in doubt.

As well, part of Mr. Romney's problem seems to have been that he can't keep his story straight. At times, I've seen him admit that he's converted on this cause. Make a persuasive case, and I might believe that.

But at times, he seems to deny that he was ever "pro-choice" (as many pro-aborts call themselves).

He can't have it both ways. Either, he was a pro-abort and he converted to pro-life, or he was always pro-life, and thus didn't need to convert to the cause. Except that he seems to at times deny the first proposition, and his record denies the second.


sitetest


182 posted on 09/27/2006 12:39:34 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: SDGOP

Dear SDGOP,

Some folks believed that the adverse actions against folks at Tailhook were partly or completely politically-motivated and unfair persecutions.


sitetest


183 posted on 09/27/2006 12:41:47 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: shempy
But we have mountains of threats, hysterics, tantrums, and trashing in front of us before we reach that point. And it matters now because it will influence to some degree the nominee we choose. But it will not matter much once the nominee is named.

Excellent post.

Sad to say, but the long and the short of Election 2008 is that after eight years of a GOP controlled executive branch and legislative branch, it's the Democrats' election to lose. In order to have a chance, the GOP has to come up with a candidate who appeases red-meat conservatives AND doesn't garner as much hatred as GWB does from the left.

And it wouldn't hurt if the Dims nominated a moonbat like Hitlery or Dean, or an empty suit like Gore or Edwards.

184 posted on 09/27/2006 12:41:56 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Antoninus
Yea, yea, yea....I bet when the Dems take over, you'll be the first here criticizing. When you post these comments, you think you sound all self-righteous, but you're just pathetic in your inability to live in the real world.
185 posted on 09/27/2006 12:42:22 PM PDT by Hildy (Canada is like a loft apartment over a really great party house)
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To: teddyballgame
If he is guilty of anything - he may have moderated his positions to get elected in MA.

He promised to protect "woman's right to choose" while governor. Some Democrats who otherwise would not have voted for him get screwed if he uses the Massachusetts governorship as a launching pad for the Presidency where he will certainly appoint judges who are inclined to overturn Roe v. Wade.

I think those Democrats have a legitimate beef but in the grand scale of politics it is not a showstopper for me by any stretch.

186 posted on 09/27/2006 12:44:12 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: SDGOP

I have trouble trusting a Repub that was electable in Massachussetts.


187 posted on 09/27/2006 12:45:08 PM PDT by BLS (Outside of a dog, a book is mans' best friend. Inside a dog it is too dark to read a book.)
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To: Hildy
Yea, yea, yea....I bet when the Dems take over, you'll be the first here criticizing. When you post these comments, you think you sound all self-righteous, but you're just pathetic in your inability to live in the real world.

Really? So it's pathetic to be pro-life and to find a candidate unfit for office if he/she thinks that baby-killing is ok?

Personally, I find your "politics over principles" attitude to be pathetic.

If the Dems take over it will be because the GOP failed to govern as conservatives. You can't blame conservatives for not voting for liberals.
188 posted on 09/27/2006 12:45:34 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: xzins
Frist? Please.

GOP Senators have much to be ashamed of. I cant imagine a Senator winning the nomination.

Romney will win over the doubters. He is quite impressive. Allen has shocked me with his ineptitude. If the man makes another apology, I might slap an infant.
189 posted on 09/27/2006 12:46:18 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Cant get a drivers license so you can vote for Democrats? Go Greyhound, bitches!)
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To: BLS

"I have trouble trusting a Repub that was electable in Massachussetts."

You've proved my earlier point:

"He gets a bad rap on Free Republic largely, I believe, because he's the Governor of Massachusetts. People wrongly see him as a RINO."


190 posted on 09/27/2006 12:48:22 PM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: Antoninus

You think abortion is the biggest problem of our times. I, and the majority of the people in this country, don't. Like I said, if we don't protect this country, you'll have your ban on abortions, I guarantee it.


191 posted on 09/27/2006 12:48:26 PM PDT by Hildy (Canada is like a loft apartment over a really great party house)
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To: SDGOP

Miltie is in good company. Remember the hildebeast moved just a tad to the right to court the moderates. Bleah!


192 posted on 09/27/2006 12:49:04 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: SDGOP

I'm still waiting for a response to post #180...


193 posted on 09/27/2006 12:49:51 PM PDT by defenderSD (CO2 is not a pollutant and I am not a polluter when I breathe....you hear that Algore?)
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To: Howlin; SDGOP

Looks like SDGOP may have disappeared for now.


194 posted on 09/27/2006 12:51:31 PM PDT by defenderSD (CO2 is not a pollutant and I am not a polluter when I breathe....you hear that Algore?)
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To: Theo
A religious test? Are you saying that whether or not an 8-month-old pre-born baby is just some esoteric religious belief?

Get a freaking grip!
He said he would not vote for Romney because he spent one year working for the Mormon Church (as is required of all Mormons).
195 posted on 09/27/2006 12:53:09 PM PDT by msnimje (Seriously, if it REALLY were a religion of PEACE, would they have to label it as such?)
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To: xzins

"The conservative Christian choice at this moment has to be Frist."

Frist comes off as a bit wimpy, Hillary will eat his lunch.

"The most articulate conservative is Gingrich."

Trus and I would gladly cast my vote for him, but he is not electable due to poor judgement in his personal life in the past.

"The most likely to easily win is Cheney. (yeah, I know he's not running....)"

I wish to God he was, just to see him in another debate. Him vs Edwards was like watching your team sweep the world series. It was fun to watch.


196 posted on 09/27/2006 12:54:44 PM PDT by BLS (Outside of a dog, a book is mans' best friend. Inside a dog it is too dark to read a book.)
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To: defenderSD; Hemingway's Ghost

You all can think what you want...

None of you know how to dance with the opposition!

If we waited for you folks the Dems would rule this nation hands down!


197 posted on 09/27/2006 12:55:04 PM PDT by restornu (Shame on all of you who practice distortion and lies to get gain for your champaign !)
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To: teddyballgame

Me, too.


198 posted on 09/27/2006 12:56:05 PM PDT by Checkers
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To: Hildy
You think abortion is the biggest problem of our times. I, and the majority of the people in this country, don't. Like I said, if we don't protect this country, you'll have your ban on abortions, I guarantee it.

President Hillary (sorry, Reichsfuehrer Hillary) is going to make lots of people here on FR yearn for what could've been under President Romney, President McCain, or President Giuliani.

199 posted on 09/27/2006 12:56:35 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Diogenesis; Risha; Hemingway's Ghost

I can see you Diogenesis, don't understand or just ignorant of the Health plan


200 posted on 09/27/2006 12:57:07 PM PDT by restornu (Shame on all of you who practice distortion and lies to get gain for your champaign !)
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