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Why Darwinism Is Doomed
WorldNetDaily ^ | 09/27/2006 | Jonathan Wells

Posted on 09/27/2006 9:56:09 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: js1138

Heh, heh. Reminds me of those "fetus drawings".


461 posted on 09/28/2006 8:49:47 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: js1138
I am asserting it is a lie to say that evolution is anti-religious. A flat lie.

Please look up the word "lie"

Unless you can prove the person who said that knew it was not true - all you are doing is presenting your personal opinion not based on any facts (none that you have presented). You, like Democrat Moonbats, seem to not understand the meaning of the word "lie" - as in "Bush lied about WMD in Iraq"

I am asserting it is a lie to say that evolution is anti-religious.

I think there is some evidence that much of what is called "evolution" is in deed anti-religious - but far from all of it. You are going to have a heck of a time disproving somebodies opinion.

If data related to the statement does not support the statement - the statement is NOT considered a lie.

If you think it is a lie - prove that no supporters of evolution are anti-religious. You know that is absurd.

462 posted on 09/28/2006 8:56:52 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Stultis

So then why isn't the mudskipper a "found" link? Doesn't it appear to be some sort of transition between a fish and amphibian or land reptile?


463 posted on 09/28/2006 9:00:38 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: JSDude1
Guess it's easier to demean rather than debate on the issues, huh..?

Another person that gets it - bravo!

464 posted on 09/28/2006 9:02:15 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: tacticalogic
How should we judge such a transparent attempt to sidestep the question?

I did some reviewing - I replied to every statement in your message and there was one question but it was related to my personal beliefs - I answered it.

Please stop with the baseless accusations unless your goal is to be a troll.

465 posted on 09/28/2006 9:06:24 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Last Visible Dog
So are you saying the content of his studies are irrelevant.

No, I'm not. A question of what motivated him to seek his degree was answered by stating where he got his degree from - the content of his studies is irrelevant to what motivated him to pursue that study. I don't believe that you are unable to understand that why a person does something is a separate issue from how they go about doing it.

Wells also has a Ph.D. in theology from Yale University - do some research before you post. Do you have a Ph.D. is theology?

I'm aware of his degree in theology. If he's making these assertions from a theological basis, then why argue over his credentials as a biologist?

I don't have a degree in theology. Will you state outright that unless I have a degree in theology I have to accept anything he says as fact, or just make tacit implications?

466 posted on 09/28/2006 9:07:35 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Last Visible Dog
I did some reviewing - I replied to every statement in your message and there was one question but it was related to my personal beliefs - I answered it.

The question you sidestepped was posed by stands2reason, and the reply was to him. The thread chain leads right back to there.

If you think I'm being a troll, you know where the abuse button is.

467 posted on 09/28/2006 9:11:51 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
The only apparent basis the man has for making the assertions and drawing the conclusions in this article is his religion.

Right.

His Ph.D. in cell and molecular biology as well as his a Ph.D. in theology is clearly no basis /sarcasm

Once again you are attacking the man in an attempt to refute his positions - that is fallacious logic.

468 posted on 09/28/2006 9:14:21 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: upcountryhorseman
Me: The actual fgure is something like 99.8% of biologists, paleontologists, geneticists etc. In other words, 998 out of a thousand professionals accept evo, 2 don't.

You: This is not true: I can name many noted scientists who do not accept Darwinism.

One statement doesn't contradict the other. Among all scientists, the figure drops to something around 95% or so (depending on how "scientist" is defined; are engineers scientists? doctors). BTW, the only "noted scientist" would be Fred Hoyle; the others are more noted for writing popular books than for their science.

469 posted on 09/28/2006 9:15:15 AM PDT by Virginia-American (What do you call an honest creationist? An evolutionist.)
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To: MeanWestTexan; My2Cents
Christianity is the acceptance of the belief that Jesus WAS the Messiah,

Jesus IS the Messiah. One must 'possess' Christ, not merely 'profess' Christ as Lord.
470 posted on 09/28/2006 9:16:17 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Last Visible Dog
Unless you can prove the person who said that knew it was not true..

A fair statement, but Wells is an educated polemicist. His intention to defame evolution is undeniable, and he cannot be so ignorant as not to know that evolution is one of many scientific findings that contradict literal readings of the Bible. Therefore, he knows that evolution can only be anti-religious in the same sense that all of science is anti-religious.

Because all of science ignores religion and the Bible, and every branch of science has findings that contradict a literal reading of the Bible.

471 posted on 09/28/2006 9:24:13 AM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: presently no screen name

Correction duly noted. "Was and is" would probably be even better.


472 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:03 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: tacticalogic
the content of his studies is irrelevant to what motivated him to pursue that study

This one goes in the Evo Silly Statements Hall of Fame.

In your mind, what a person has done or said is irrelevant - all you care about is what you decide are their motives.

Once again - are you going to address any issues in the article or is it your plan to merely attack Wells personally?

Some Evo's seem to be masters of fallacious logic.

473 posted on 09/28/2006 9:27:43 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Last Visible Dog
Once again you are attacking the man in an attempt to refute his positions - that is fallacious logic.

Where have I attacked him personally? I have questioned the basis for his assertions and conclusion, and the logical implicatiions of those assertions and conclusions, period. Please show me where I have attacked this man personally.

474 posted on 09/28/2006 9:28:38 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Last Visible Dog
In your mind, what a person has done or said is irrelevant - all you care about is what you decide are their motives.

I didn't decide what his motive are, I just questioned what where he got his degree from has to do with what motivated him to pursue it. Apparently you don't find that a fair question.

475 posted on 09/28/2006 9:30:46 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Last Visible Dog
" Please give us examples of these lies"

I already did in my firstst ppost to htis thread at #237. That's why I wrote the little ditty.

476 posted on 09/28/2006 9:48:43 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: upcountryhorseman

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html


477 posted on 09/28/2006 10:04:08 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

What in high heaven are you talking about? Have you been part of the same thread that I have?


478 posted on 09/28/2006 10:12:34 AM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: freedumb2003

Excellent post. Couldn't say it better myself.


479 posted on 09/28/2006 10:21:22 AM PDT by Al Simmons (Holocaust deniers and other anti-semites are the lowest form of human scum.)
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To: RobRoy

It is quite interesting the way the darwinists attack anyone who questions their faith. I don't know how many posters are actually scientists or academics, but for those who ARE, ignorance regarding what ID really IS is unforgivable. At the very least, they are frauds. All creationists can live with ID, not very many ID adherents can accept creationism. Here is a FACT: a great many legitimate scientists question the idea that darwinism is a "fact". They are ALL looking for another answer and hoping it ISN'T God.

One more repetition, then the smarmy know-it-alls can have their, truly, stupid thread back. IN ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS THERE HAS BEEN NOT ONE FACT-NOT ONE- to support darwinism. To see the unscientific means by which the darwinist community has attempted to defraud the public is certainly one of the most disreputable circus acts anyone has ever witnessed. Sooner or later, I hope the "there ain't no God" materialists come to the realization that the American people are just not as stupid as they hope. Not all are creationists, not all even believe in God but more and more are beginning to realize that the darwinists are WRONG- although the idea that SOME are related to monkeys IS rather easy to accept...


480 posted on 09/28/2006 10:23:54 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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