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Fury as opera cancelled for fear of offending Muslims
The Scotsman ^ | September 27, 2006 | MELISSA EDDY

Posted on 09/26/2006 11:03:35 PM PDT by MadIvan

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Our friends in Germany appear to be awakening.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 09/26/2006 11:03:36 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: DCPatriot; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; pax_et_bonum; Alkhin; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/26/2006 11:04:03 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

Again; you had to post another thread about this, in less than 24 hours? LOL


3 posted on 09/26/2006 11:06:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MadIvan
It terrible not to be able to speak openly about,,,well you know what!
4 posted on 09/26/2006 11:08:57 PM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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To: MadIvan
Blackmail, what the Islamic Cults do best.

Which is why the weak left wants to leave Iraq and Afghanistan, it is why the weak want Israel to give up their country to the cults, and why the worldwide media insists that the US, Israel and the evil Bush are the problem.

Fear.
5 posted on 09/26/2006 11:09:33 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: MadIvan

I loved the quote from the Mayor. He hit the nail on the head.


6 posted on 09/26/2006 11:12:26 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: singfreedom

On the other hand, the head of the Security Forces must be a lefty apologist.


7 posted on 09/26/2006 11:15:02 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: MadIvan
The Deutsche Oper Berlin yesterday said it had decided "with great regret" to cancel a planned production of Mozart's Idomeneo after city security officials warned of an "incalculable risk" because of scenes dealing with Islam, as well as other religions.

Yeah, those Amish people might set off a quilt bomb in retaliaton. Or do a drive-by barn raising with one of their little horse buggies.

8 posted on 09/26/2006 11:15:13 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (You can do that, and be a whack-job pedophile on meth.)
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To: MadIvan

People in a free society cannot allow the dictators
of an oppressive culture to define freedom!

Anyone who believes the european people will sit and
watch their cultures to be ruined are mistaken.


9 posted on 09/26/2006 11:19:01 PM PDT by ChiMark
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To: MadIvan
The same kind of censorship in 1994 :

Voltaire Censored-Again

by Ross Mullin

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."-Voltaire

The city of Geneva has once again proven Voltaire's subversiveness-by preventing performance of his play, "Mahomet, ou le Fanatisme."

Voltaire wasn't actually attacking Mohammed. His main targets, thinly disguised, were religious fanaticism in general, and Christian fanatics in particular.

When his play reached Paris on 9 August 1742, the right-wing Catholic Jansenists [plus catholique de la pape] well knew at whom the barbs flew, and complained to the authorities. The authorities quietly pressured Voltaire to close it down.

Fast-forward two-and-one-half centuries. When a plan to restage "Mahomet" in Switzerland was proposed, Muslim "cultural centers" overtly denounced "blasphemy" and covertly hinted at violence. Geneva's authorities yielded to the pressure, and religious fanatics were appeased once again.

Patronized by Geneva's modern rulers, Voltaire is disguised as a harmless dead philosopher, a relic of French-Swiss history. Censored by them, he is exposed as a libertarian radical.

"We disapprove of what you say," the censors tell him, "and we will suppress your right to say it, even long after your death."

Voltaire preached "natural religion." Rejecting the cruel, terrorizing, vindictive Jehovah portrayed by most Christian clergy in his time, he turned to the remote mild God of the British deists. And, in "Mahomet," he attacked fraudulent and persecuting priests.

Though he hated some clergy, he honored others. He sent a copy of "Mahomet" to Pope Benedict XIV, who replied by praising "your excellent tragedy... which I have read with great pleasure." Benedict's good words contrasted with those of clerics who saw it as a "bloody satire against the Christian religion."

Earlier, in 1740, Voltaire had read this play aloud to Frederick of Prussia. Then he explained it further in a letter to Frederick, a few months before his Paris defeat: "The love of mankind, and the hatred of fanaticism, two virtues that adorn your throne, guided my pen.... They who tell us... that the flames of religious war are totally extinguished, in my opinion, pay too high a compliment to human nature. The same poison still subsists, even though it does not appear so openly.... In vain does human reason advance towards perfection, by means of that philosophy which of late has made so great a progress in Europe.... Why must I blindly follow the blind who cry out to me: hate, persecute all who are rash enough not to be of the same opinion with ourselves, even in things and matters we do not understand? ... A spirit of indulgence would make us all brothers; a spirit of persecution can create nothing but monsters...."

10 posted on 09/26/2006 11:23:01 PM PDT by Republicain
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To: MadIvan

I don't believe the people of europe are weak.
Their politicians certainly have caused a big
problem once again. It's called appeasement.



11 posted on 09/26/2006 11:24:21 PM PDT by ChiMark
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To: Republicain; All
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."-Voltaire

Let us send this quote to the editors and reporters of EVERY MSM News outlet who declined to publish the Mohammed Cartoons.

Hypocritical scum, they are.

Cheers!

12 posted on 09/26/2006 11:31:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: MadIvan

Only in Post-Christian secular Europe would an 18th century Opera about the King of Crete be turned into an anti-religion polemic. There is no reference to Islam, Mohammed, Buddha or Jesus in the original Opera. It was all added on for this recent production. It seems to me these people have sown the seeds of their own destruction.

That being said, bowing to Islamic fascism by suppressing free speech is disgraceful and dangerous .

THE PLOT:

Idomeneo, the King of Crete, returning victorious from war with Troy, encounters a storm that threatens his fleet. In return for safe passage, he vows to Neptune to sacrifice to him the first person that he sees upon arriving ashore. When that person turns out to be his son, Idamante, Idomeneo sends Idamante away, hoping to avoid his pledge to Neptune.
Idamante and a Trojan prisoner, the princess Ilia, are in love. Idamante is also loved by Elettra, herself a princess in exile. Of course, breaking a vow to a god will have repercussions: Neptune sends a monster to ravish Crete. Idamante slays the monster and offers himself as the promised sacrifice to Neptune, as, indeed, does Ilia, but an oracle intervenes and everyone lives happily ever after.

What could these Germans have been thinking?


13 posted on 09/26/2006 11:40:00 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO WANT TO TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY !)
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"Our friends in Germany appear to be awakening."

Only if they go on with the opera - if they don't terrorism and violence work... and the pope was wrong.


14 posted on 09/26/2006 11:54:21 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: MadIvan

I'm outraged at the cancellation. Death to the Imams!!! Or at least publish some more cartoons.


15 posted on 09/26/2006 11:57:54 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Teddy drank, people sank.)
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Mohammed the Prophet (may he burn in hell) was a pedophile and murderer. Islam is a religion created by Satan himself, full of hate, murder, and every kind of evil. Piss on Islam, but God save the poor, mislead and corrupted Muslims, through Christ the Lord.

Come and get me Muslims.

I will NOT submit.

SFS

16 posted on 09/27/2006 12:49:45 AM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone
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THAT'S IT!

I'm going to produce a car antenna topper that looks like Mohammed's (bees pee upon him) head; a golf-ball-sized foam ball with a beard and a turban with that funky scribble on the front.

Once I have proof-of-concept, I'll debut photos here on FR for the enjoyment of all sane people who still have a sense of humor.

17 posted on 09/27/2006 1:22:34 AM PDT by HKMk23 (Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna)
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To: ChiMark
Anyone who believes the european people will sit and watch their cultures to be ruined are mistaken.

Yea right... "European people have short memory, they appeased Hitler not that long ago, now they welcome and appease Islamofacist, the cancer grows unchecked, the patient will become terminal soon.

European people are sitting on their lazy asses and wait until islamic sharia will be imposed on them.
Meanwhile european people whine and blame Bush for all evil in their small world.

18 posted on 09/27/2006 3:17:08 AM PDT by Anticommie
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To: MadIvan

This morning, my local classical station is playing Mozart's Idomeneo.


19 posted on 09/27/2006 5:19:55 AM PDT by Alia
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The book & art burnings & bans will soon begin, again. Will another Kristallnacht be far behind, with both Jews & ethnic Germans the targets this time?

I am surprised at the decision of the director of the Deutsche Oper. Theater people are usually rabid in their defense of free expression, especially in the arts. I'd say the Deutsche Oper needs a new director.


20 posted on 09/27/2006 5:32:00 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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