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Bad Blood Over Bad Loans
Business Week ^ | OCTOBER 2, 2006 | Mara Der Hovanesian with Dawn Kopecki

Posted on 09/26/2006 5:17:21 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

OCTOBER 2, 2006

NEWS & INSIGHTS

Bad Blood Over Bad Loans

Mortgage defaults are rising. Wall Street thinks banks should mop up the mess

Everyone involved in the mortgage business got rich during the housing boom, including Wall Street. The biggest firms bought all the loans they could get their hands on, repackaged them, and sold them for a fee to hedge funds and other investors. Mortgage-backed securities issuance soared from $184.5 billion in 2000 to nearly $1 trillion in 2005, generating more than $1 billion in fees last year.

But now that the real estate tide is ebbing, trash is starting to wash up on shore. Mortgage delinquencies are zooming -- bad news for the banks, Wall Street firms, and investors holding loans.

In some cases, the original lenders are taking the biggest hits...

(Excerpt) Read more at businessweek.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: backed; banks; default; housingbubble; mortage; securities; wallstreet
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1 posted on 09/26/2006 5:17:22 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Is your other name Earth Solvent?


2 posted on 09/26/2006 5:19:01 PM PDT by pissant
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To: ex-Texan; little jeremiah; osideplanner; djf; Larry Lucido; durasell

ping


3 posted on 09/26/2006 5:21:23 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: pissant
"Is your other name Earth Solvent?"

Was the first think on my mind too lol! THey are coming out of the wood work tonight! We may see a good ZOT! before the night is out.

4 posted on 09/26/2006 5:21:59 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: GodGunsGuts

Opportunity abounds.


5 posted on 09/26/2006 5:22:04 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("...peace is the result of victory...")
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To: Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy; Fan of Fiat

Ping. The sky is falling AGAIN.


6 posted on 09/26/2006 5:22:14 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: pissant

Earth Solvent?


7 posted on 09/26/2006 5:22:44 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: KoRn

LOL. It's amazing.


8 posted on 09/26/2006 5:23:23 PM PDT by pissant
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To: GodGunsGuts

Or Willie Green?


9 posted on 09/26/2006 5:23:58 PM PDT by pissant
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To: the invisib1e hand

The real opportunities won't present themselves until real estate falls much further IMO. But you are right, there will be some great buys in a couple of years.


10 posted on 09/26/2006 5:24:27 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Real estate drops 1.2% and we're doomed. Gold drops 20% and it's a "buying opportunity".
11 posted on 09/26/2006 5:28:51 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
From a small mortgage banker's perspective:

A year and a half ago you could get a 100% Option ARM and pay 1% the first year. Now you would have to do two loans 90-10 or 80-20 to get 100% and your credit score would have to be 720+. Your loan would be 4% fixed or 3% ARM for five years.

My wife and I left a corrupt company where other officers would knowingly submit loans with false info. Way high stated income, personal residence when it wasn't, and so forth and so on.

Some of these borrowers have seen a serious increase in their payment with rising rates, especially those tied to LIBOR index. And some of the associates in that company are upside down with their own homes.

The worst problem is those who MUST sell now for some reason. They borrowed 100%, the market went down, the payment went up and they will have to sell way short to get out.

We are turning some of our clients who have to move, from sellers to buyers.

I am a planner and have a license. We recommend certain hedges to our clients to avoid what folks are going through now. But what I've seen and heard from some clients tells me the loan business is a land mine even in the best of times.

12 posted on 09/26/2006 5:29:24 PM PDT by osideplanner
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To: GodGunsGuts
The real opportunities won't present themselves until real estate falls much further IMO. But you are right, there will be some great buys in a couple of years.

For straight-ahead real estate, I would tend to agree, just now at least.

I'm thinking a bit more in terms of hedging portfolio risk, and taking the opposite side of bad portfolio layoffs.

13 posted on 09/26/2006 5:33:21 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("...peace is the result of victory...")
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To: osideplanner
Excellent (and very informative) reply! It's good to have someone from the biz comment on these articles from time to time. Indeed, I'm sure we could all learn a lot from you. If you post anything regarding real estate, I hope you will be so kind as to ping me. Thanks a bunch--GGG
14 posted on 09/26/2006 5:34:18 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: the invisib1e hand

==I'm thinking a bit more in terms of hedging portfolio risk, and taking the opposite side of bad portfolio layoffs.

I'm not sure I follow you. Would you mind fleshing your comment/strategy out a little more?


15 posted on 09/26/2006 5:36:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: pissant
Or Willie Green?

Where is Mr. Optimist? He's been awfully quiet as of late.

16 posted on 09/26/2006 5:36:16 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I'll try to keep you in mind. I'm a lazy poster.

I still have a lot to learn and these threads and links are part of the process. I was looking at the ocean from the living room and was trying to see signs of a bad market. LOL! Thanx.

17 posted on 09/26/2006 5:36:31 PM PDT by osideplanner
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To: GodGunsGuts

Jamie Gorelick. Bad policy, bad loans, bad books, grab bag for the closed circle of the charmed.


18 posted on 09/26/2006 5:36:41 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Cobra64

He got banned some time ago. Not sure exactly why.


19 posted on 09/26/2006 5:38:09 PM PDT by pissant
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To: osideplanner

How would it work out though? If the borrower has almost no equity, any drop in prices means the lender takes it in the shorts.

This whole thing could make the RTC debacle look like a lemonade stand by comparison.


20 posted on 09/26/2006 5:38:43 PM PDT by djf (Some people say we evolved. I say "Some did, some didn't!")
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