Posted on 09/25/2006 9:56:31 AM PDT by presidio9
Edited on 09/25/2006 10:02:37 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
No matter how you resolve that question, it isn't very relevant to "why many Jews of that generation came out ot the war with an enormous loyalty to the USSR." I would say that any Jews foolish enough to have such loyalties had them, or had them to passed down to them (think "Red Diaper Babies"), from the time of the Bolshevik Revolution, when the Reds were seen as the "progressives" who overturned the czarist tyranny under which Jews were persecuted severely. The bulk of such Jewish loyalties to the Soviets were cultivated through carefully contrived propaganda, which deftly avoided mention of the antisemitism in the USSR which continued into the Communist era.
It's also notable that Jewish (and other) Communists around the world largely remained loyal to the USSR during the period from 1939 to 1941 when the Soviets and Nazis were allied through their mutual non-aggression pact.
Where does it say those things in the Tanach?
Yeah, me too. Ony I have 6 of them.
It's my impression that those opponents who are making an issue over Allen's Jewish ancestry are the real antisemites who are trying to make Allen come off as one by their provocations that motivated the question at the debate.
Tehn I would qualify, except for the part about adopting another religion. If I went, I wouldn't be concerned about settlement assistance and the like, I'd just want to work and support the country any way I could. But I doubt I'll be going anytime soon.
Jeremiah 3:18
Ezekiel 37:21-36.
Jeremiah 23:3-8.
Isaiah 11:10-13.
Ezekiel 39:25-29.
Isaiah 27:12-13.
Ezekiel 34:22-29.
Ezekiel 28:24-26.
Jeremiah 31:10-11.
Isaiah 43:5-7
I got lots more.
Great, you must feel very blessed to have such love bestowed on you.
Can you please tell us the name of that Rabbi on "Right Wing" talk radio?
Thanks for taking the time to site those passages, I will study all of them and get back to you, if you don't mind.
Doesn't necessarily make them antisemites, but it's fair to say that political opponents raising the issue aren't doing it because they think it's an asset. Presuming he wins, I disagree with the idea that this "kills" his Presidential ambitions. These issues will come up, better he deals with them now. If the worst he has in his past is are Jewish parents, a teamate who says he used the n- word, and a Confederate flag on his locker, pickup (did he have a pickup, that's another negative), whatever, he's in pretty good shape. This is old news six months from now, by raising it as a national issue, old news beyond Virginia.
The main purpose of the Spanish Inquisition in the 16th century was to certify that a family-line was Jew free. Evidentally the Washpost has taken on that duty.
Found out last year I had some Viking blood in me. Unfortunaetely that won't help my political career. lol.
have to disagree. King David was Jewish because Ruth was a convert. There are two ways to become a Jew: get yerself borned to a Jewish mama or convert. She went with conversion, having been born a Moabite and whatever religion that would be.
True, there was a dispute as to his heritage because the Torah says a Moabite cannot enter into the congregation. However, the dispute was resolved because in the Hebrew, it says Moabite in the male gender form, which was interpreted to mean only males are included in the prohibition.
I once had some Matzo ball soup, does that count?
Not surprising. My Grandmother kept that secret for decades. The family has roots in Sweden, but they were jews. I never understood why she kept that quiet until I realized that she lived through the 1930's and '40's.
"Here in Northern Kalifornicate - we have an OUTSTANDING Rabbi on "Right Wing" Talk Radio (560 AM)"
Daniel Lapin?
MMMM no. Ruth was his great-grandmother. There is nothing that states that his mother was not Jewish.
Just interested: When you say I keep Shabot, Kashrut and the High Holy days, what do you mean?
Do you refrain from all prohibited forms of work on Shabbat, including the 39 enumerated in Tractate Shabbos of the Talmud?
Do you refrain from eating pork, shellfish and any animal not slaughtered in strict accordance with Kashrut as defined in Tractate Chullin of the Talmud?
I don't mean to be a wiseguy, I am just interested to see how one such as yourself is using the terms so I understand your definition of Jewish observance. There is a growing movement of non-Jewish people who wish to maintain the Mitzvot (Torah commandments) required of them without conversion to Judaism, known as the Noahide laws. Have you looked into that? I mean that would define a person as a righteous non-Jew in accordance with the Torah and avoid a lot of confusion of straddling two different religions.
See my reply 74. In truth this was a serious debate, because if Ruth was prohibited from converting, it would have rendered David's lineage illegitimate, because his grandfather, Obed and father, Jesse, would have been considered the product of an illegitimate union (Boaz and Ruth).
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