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Jane, We Hardly Knew Ye Died (U.S. female military fatalities in Iraq, Afghanistan & Middle East)
NY Times ^ | September 24, 2006 | LIZETTE ALVAREZ

Posted on 09/24/2006 3:28:12 PM PDT by neverdem

LT. EMILY J. T. PEREZ, 23, a West Point graduate who outran many men, directed a gospel choir and read the Bible every day, was at the head of a weekly convoy as it rolled down roads pocked with bombs and bullets near Najaf. As platoon leader, she insisted on leading her troops from the front.

Two weeks ago, one of those bombs tripped her up, detonating near her Humvee in Kifl, south of Baghdad. She died Sept. 12, the 64th woman from the United States military to be killed in Iraq or Afghanistan. Eight died in Vietnam.

Despite longstanding predictions that America would shudder to see its women coming home in coffins, Lieutenant Perez’s death, and those of the other women, the majority of whom died from hostile fire (the 65th died in a Baghdad car bombing a day later), have stirred no less — and no more — reaction at home than the nearly 2,900 male dead. The same can be said of the hundreds of wounded women.

There is no shortage of guesses as to why: Americans are no longer especially shocked by the idea of a woman’s violent death. Most don’t know how many women have fallen, or under what circumstances. Photographs of body bags and coffins are rarely seen. And nobody wants to kick up a fuss and risk insulting grieving families.

“The public doesn’t seem concerned they are dying,” said Charles Moskos, a military sociologist at Northwestern University who has closely studied national service. “They would rather have someone else's daughter die than their son.”

What’s more, no one in the strained military is eager to engage in a debate about women and the risks they are taking in Iraq because, quite simply, the women are sorely needed in this modern-day insurgent conflict. As...

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; americahate; iraq; militarypersonnel; nytreasontimes; women
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To: neverdem
Americans are no longer especially shocked by the idea of a woman’s violent death.

Well feminists, welcome to "The Law of Unintended Consequences".

Myself, I'm still shocked at the lose of any of our military folks.
Including Coalition members.

But then, I get would be called a Neanderthalic, knuckle-dragging
hyper-patriot by most liberals/feminists.
21 posted on 09/24/2006 4:34:02 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Kitten Festival
Never mind the Times' blatant effort to mine propaganda value from this,

I noticed that, too. Their reporting about the numbers of soldiers who have died wasn't getting any traction so they're playing the gender card in hopes of turning folks against the war.

22 posted on 09/24/2006 4:42:06 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: neverdem

God bless her for her courage and service to our country. May she rest in peace and may God comfort her family.


23 posted on 09/24/2006 4:44:05 PM PDT by fishergirl (Choose your vices carefully, then be loyal to them.)
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw

I remember the event and the TV special on her before her death (unmarked tower) but I can't remember her last name either. I was going to stop by her grave while touring Arlington but didn't know where to go.


24 posted on 09/24/2006 4:45:05 PM PDT by mcshot ("If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features." paraphrased anon.)
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To: neverdem
“The public doesn’t seem concerned they are dying,” said Charles Moskos, a military sociologist at Northwestern University who has closely studied national service. “They would rather have someone else's daughter die than their son.”

NY Times, Charles Moskos...SHEESH!

Condolences to Emily J.T. Perez's family and friends. America's finest.

25 posted on 09/24/2006 4:48:49 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: neverdem

Please note that the self-serving slant here is about the fact that we the people have lost our horror of combat/war deaths.The NY slimes at it again, exploiting deaths in Iraq to point out the futility of our being there (in their opinion.)

God bless Lt. Perez' family and comfort them that she was a good leader at her chosen profession. Thanks to her and all the others who lost their lives and those who continue to serve.

vaudine


26 posted on 09/24/2006 5:06:06 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Don't you love it when the flaming hypocrites on the left pull out the "chivalry/weak little lady" card when it suits them? I can't stand these types, nor the New York Slimes. They don't honor the women for their service, they just take cheap shots about the supposed lack of concern for women soldiers or chivalry in the American public at large. The feminists sure fought hard enough to get women into the service academies and places like VMI and the Citadel, didn't they? Well, they should honor the women who serve and chose a military career, and keep their ignorant remarks about the nation not caring much about female military casualties to themselves.


27 posted on 09/24/2006 5:09:19 PM PDT by Cecily (`)
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To: Cecily

Yep, you nailed it.


28 posted on 09/24/2006 5:18:13 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." - GW Bush, referring to DNC's lack of a platform on ANYTHING)
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To: jocon307
"There is no shortage of guesses as to why: Americans are no longer especially shocked by the idea of a woman’s violent death." Gee, you think it could be the relentless drum beating by the feminist left?

Whatever the reason - feminism or something else - the statement is true.

29 posted on 09/24/2006 5:20:54 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Yes. Phyllis Schlafly had it correct. As do you.


30 posted on 09/24/2006 6:17:02 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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31 posted on 09/24/2006 6:49:15 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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32 posted on 09/24/2006 7:07:37 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: bitt; devolve

The first woman, may her soul rest in peace.


33 posted on 09/24/2006 7:11:57 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw; mcshot

Major Marie Therese Rossi Cayton.


34 posted on 09/24/2006 7:11:59 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: COEXERJ145

Thank you. Thank you for your service in the defense of our Country, Major Cayton. Rest in Peace.


35 posted on 09/24/2006 7:18:50 PM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: neverdem
Jane, We Hardly Knew Ye Died

This brings a tear to my eye. God bless these fallen soldiers paying the ultimate price for their country.

Thank you for posting this reminder of our brave men and women.

36 posted on 09/24/2006 7:26:24 PM PDT by phantomworker (A life spent in making mistakes is more honorable & more useful than a life spent in doing nothing.)
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To: bitt

My silent pray and salute.


37 posted on 09/24/2006 7:41:40 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: bitt

A fine half-staff flag .gif, bitt.
All honor to all our courageous and dedicated servicemen and women.


38 posted on 09/24/2006 7:54:50 PM PDT by ntnychik
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God Bless Lt. Emily J. T. Perez
Thank you for serving

 

39 posted on 09/24/2006 8:00:59 PM PDT by Smartass (The stars rule men but God rules the stars)
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To: Smartass
Prayers going up and BUMP this memorial for a superb defender of American Freedom and Values! Prayers for her family and loved ones. We all share in the loss of this young woman. God Bless Lt. Emily J. T. Perez.
40 posted on 09/24/2006 8:06:35 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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