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Tearing down what's left of socialism - Newly elected conservative PM of Sweden plans brisk reforms
www.thelocal.se ^ | 09/24/2006 | Delphine Toitou - AFP

Posted on 09/24/2006 1:23:22 PM PDT by WesternCulture

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1 posted on 09/24/2006 1:23:27 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

I wish the new PM luck. It's very difficult to change hearts and minds after years of socialism.


2 posted on 09/24/2006 1:26:50 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: WesternCulture
Operation "Liberation Sweden" begins!


3 posted on 09/24/2006 1:27:48 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: WesternCulture

Not that the reporters covering the story are *permitted* to mention it, but this is yet another example of an anti-Iraq-war government being toppled.

Martin is gone from Canada. Schroeder is gone from Germany. Now the anti-Iraq-War government in Sweden is toppled.

Chirac in France is next.

You just aren't allowed to say the above in print or on the air.

4 posted on 09/24/2006 1:30:05 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: FormerACLUmember

"Operation "Liberation Sweden" begins!"

- Cheers/skål to that my friend!!


5 posted on 09/24/2006 1:30:54 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: Southack

It's already too late unless the demographics change dramatically.


6 posted on 09/24/2006 1:31:04 PM PDT by Uncle Billy ("A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away all you have")
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To: WesternCulture

Do they have anything like a national system of property recordation and naturalization of persons such as corporations?


7 posted on 09/24/2006 1:34:15 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: WesternCulture

Skål! Skaal! Helan går!


8 posted on 09/24/2006 1:37:54 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Southack

When do they start deporting Muslims? That's the most important issue.


9 posted on 09/24/2006 1:38:26 PM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Southack

Not that the reporters covering the story are *permitted* to mention it, but this is yet another example of an anti-Iraq-war government being toppled.

"Martin is gone from Canada. Schroeder is gone from Germany. Now the anti-Iraq-War government in Sweden is toppled.

Chirac in France is next.

You just aren't allowed to say the above in print or on the air."

Very true.

Yet, we swedes have in fact worked together with the US in the WOT area. We've sent troops to Afghanistan (and swedish soldiers have been attacked AND killed) and our security service have cooperated a lot with the CIA and other US agencies. In connection to the US operations against Taliban as well as Saddam madness, the former government of Sweden has also declared officially that its standpoint is that "the US has a right to defend itself".

I'm not saying Sweden has done enough and I furthermore oppose the former social democratic-left- green government of Sweden in several areas, but I DO think it's a shame how the attack on the WTC has caused division in the WEST.

The West IS one and should act AS one, defending the open society.


10 posted on 09/24/2006 1:41:31 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
Here is some important background info on the new PM...

He was born in August 1965 into a family of entrepreneurs. His father ran a training company and his mother worked in recruitment. Mr Reinfeldt has cited their experience of the difficulties of business life - "the petty aggressive attitude toward entrepreneurship" - as being one of the key factors which influenced his political activity.

At the age of 26, only a year after graduating from Stockholm University with a degree in economics, he was first elected to the Riksdag. He became the head of the Moderate Party's youth wing in 1992.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5355938.stm


11 posted on 09/24/2006 1:41:46 PM PDT by Dark Skies (Allah sez "don't look at the man behind the curtain.")
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"When do they start deporting Muslims? That's the most important issue."

We're already deporting muslim criminals and other such people who don't belong in Europe.

However, a lot of immigrants have gained swedish citizenship far too easily IMO and these people are being treated as ordinary, native swedes by the law - regardless of what crimes they commit.

In Sweden there are ALSO a lot of "muslims" who've fled from countries like Iran, Iraq etc who simple hate islamofascism and fascism like that one of Saddam. Many of them eat pork, drink alcohol, have tried hard to learn swedish and have been successful and they also work hard and respect the law. These "muslims" can stay as far as I'm concerned.
Then there's certain other immigrants...


12 posted on 09/24/2006 1:49:05 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: fatnotlazy; WesternCulture
I was on Wall Street (as a young investment banker) when Carter got the boot and Reagan came into office. In terms of business and consumer confidence, there was an explosion.

I think the same thing will occur now in Sweden.

13 posted on 09/24/2006 2:00:29 PM PDT by Dark Skies (Allah sez "don't look at the man behind the curtain.")
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"Do they have anything like a national system of property recordation and naturalization of persons such as corporations?"

I'm not quite sure what you mean, my english isn't perfect although I guess you could label it "decent".

In a thoroughly bureaucratic society like Sweden, you could rely on everything being recorded and registred. This particular aspect of the swedish society has in fact got more to do with lutheranism and civil "Prussian drill" (although we've never been a part of Prussia) than socialism. But ok, now I'm probably getting off-topic.

The right of property isn't a part of the swedish constitution. Many people feel it ought to be, but no government we've had that I know of have bothered to deal with this matter.
One reason is probably that it would be more costly to carry out major infrastructural projects (like building new highways, railroads, airports etc) if private property was deemed a constitutional right.


14 posted on 09/24/2006 2:06:01 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
"The West IS one and should act AS one, defending the open society."

What the HELL! This coming from Sweden, from a Swede! I hope what ever you got is highly contagious, and it sweeps the entire country of Sweden!

15 posted on 09/24/2006 2:14:38 PM PDT by Dacus943
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"I hope what ever you got is highly contagious, and it sweeps the entire country of Sweden!"

It IS by all means highly contagious. For instance, Germany (- our southern neighbors), a country that for several years now have believed in improved standards of living without increases in productivity, national efforts and GDP growth is finally coming to senses.
In Germany, the biggest and richest (measuring by GDP) EU nation, educated people are very well aware that the scandinavian countries have all dealt successfully with the problems Germany, Italy and France face today through giving up on socialism and returning to healthy work ethics.

Europe will not slumber forever.

A united Western World can not be conquered by any force on this earth.

A new Renaissance!



16 posted on 09/24/2006 2:26:11 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
Private property, properly recorded in a national system, is the basis of the American system, which extends also to naturalized persons such as corporations. While it exists in Central and South America, those two lack a national system of recordation, which gives rise to shantytown development. Shantytown property is also private property but ownership is known only within the neighborhood. This system is common in third world and emerging (former communist) countries. The failing of the shantytown ownership system is that private property cannot be used as bank collateral.

When all property is available for use as collateral then capitalism moves to a second order development, which makes funding available through ownership of property as well as whatever cash a person may have in his pocket. Note that massive wealth exists in third world cities, but that the wealth is tied up and unavailable as collateral. An example in Cairo: 80% of the wealth is so tied up. Egypt should be immensely productive but it is operating on 20% of its capital potential.

The constant failure of aid programs to developing countries in Africa is linked directly to this type of situation. Zimbabwe might be a perfect example of doing it exactly wrong.

17 posted on 09/24/2006 3:02:41 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale

Ok, I get it.

Thank you for explaining this to me.

"Private property, properly recorded in a national system, is the basis of the American system, which extends also to naturalized persons such as corporations. While it exists in Central and South America, those two lack a national system of recordation, which gives rise to shantytown development."

Like you made clear in your last post, this phenomena exists in many parts of the world.

In Sweden however, I think it would be impossible.

Swedes, even jobless ones, disabled persons or other individuals unable to get a decent job have been very successful in their demands of a standard of housing equal to the rest of the population.
Just look at condos and houses in Sweden. Probably the best built in the world. To build in a different way is prohibited by law.


18 posted on 09/24/2006 3:20:13 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
" easier for small and medium-sized companies "

I like to think of such companies as 'young and growing', or "new technology companies', even experimental companies. Also maybe 'niche or boutique' companies.

I don't know about Sweden, but I suspect it is somewhat the same as in Germany, that is a lot of well educated young people, especially technically, who do not have enough growth in start up companies to use them. A lot of hanging on to a job and hoping everything is dragged out. That is not good.

Economic and political liberalization and the better utilization of human intellect and capital is only good. There is no scientific reason that things can not be better. Nor is the future limited. We have nothing to lose but bureaucratic chains of regulations! Power to the intellect!
19 posted on 09/24/2006 4:10:24 PM PDT by Leisler (Read the Koran, real Islam is not peaceful.)
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To: RightWhale

Hernado de Soto anyone?


20 posted on 09/24/2006 4:11:52 PM PDT by Leisler (Read the Koran, real Islam is not peaceful.)
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