Pigs Won't Fly, and Hillary Won't Be President

Powerline ^ | 9/24/2006 | John Hinderaker

[Uncledave]

I don't go out on a limb with a lot of predictions, but one that I have offered in strong terms is that Hillary Clinton will never be President. She is too widely disliked to be elected, and too well known for that to change. Plus, when voters focus on the weirdness of putting Bill Clinton back in the White House, she would lose more ground still.

Today's Des Moines Register has poll data that illustrate the point. The Republican front-runners clobber Hillary; worse, she doesn't run well against other Republicans, either:

This survey is a further measure of just how unelectable Clinton may be. She loses Iowa, albeit by tiny margins, to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, two relatively unknown guys who lose the state to Democrats Vilsack, Kerry and Edwards. Among all Iowa voters, Clinton is viewed unfavorably by a whopping 49 percent of the electorate. Only 43 percent see her in a favorable light, and 8 percent aren't sure.

By the time they get serious about choosing a nominee for 2008, the Democrats will realize that if Hillary can't carry states like Iowa, she can't win, and they won't nominate her.

The Democrats have a number of problems; one of them is that the endless chatter about Hillary has made it hard for other candidates to get traction. The ones that have been talked about the most are two more who can't win and won't be nominated: John Kerry and Al Gore. The Democrats desperately need for other candidates, who might be able to win, to start getting some sunlight, but it's hard to see just how and when that is going to happen.

[reformedliberal]

I doubt it will take that long, actually.

We would have the House border security bill if not for the donks and the lukewarm GOPers afraid to commit themselves in an election year.

FWIW, I see fewer and fewer of our local Mexican ag workers in the past several months. I have heard of several local kids working the apple orchards. Even with lovely weather, I am not seeing or hearing those bouncy cars with the undercarriage lights and the blasting bass, either. They have been conspicuously absent since May.

I don't ever have reason to go through the little village they took over, so I don't know for certain if the local numbers have actually decreased.

[DoughtyOne]

I would hope that the GOP leadership would devise a 'Contract with America' pledge and bring California back into the union in 2008. If they don't even try, they deserve to lose.

[RobFromGa]

It's not going to be McCain.

[ishabibble]

Thank you for reminding me of yet another despicable incident from the days after 9/11. While the entire country was on high alert, this witch runs down a cop. White fan, speeding into an airport, refused to stop.
The reason? A fund-raiser.

I agree with the gist of this article, but I think it's going to end up being MiaT here at FR who really puts the nails in HillnBill's coffin. MiaT's got every last word on those two creatures!

[Uncledave]

Keeping the states that kerri won and picking up one more state, probably in the SW, will be the Clinton's strategy.

Even assuming Hillary can carry all of Kerry's states, and I don't assume that she can (notably WI, MN, MI, NH), should Guiliani win the nomination, then NY, NJ, CT, PA come into play. Romney brings MA, NH, ME into play. Not that I'm necessarily sold on either one.

Most important to our chances, we need to get the voter ID act passed. If the dems get control of any part of the govt they will endeavor to not let the GOP get control again: no voter ID, restarting the fairness doctrine, giving illegals/felons the vote, etc.

[bill1952]

The Dems have had to become more conciiatory about the war since last election, alienating their base.

I really do not believe that the base of the Dem party is "anti-war."

Were it so, then they would have been enraged when Clinton bombed the Hell out of the civilians of a Christian country that had never attacked us, or even allowed the so minded to operate there.

No, it is the rainbow coalition of fruits, nuts, tin foils kooks, and other sundry special interest groups that they use to stay in power that may fracture, and I doubt the power of them to swing a state's electoral votes.

And I believe that when all is said and done, even most of the nuts will bite their collective lip and pull the lever for any Democrat.

[bill1952]

I would hope that the GOP leadership would devise a 'Contract with America' pledge ...

Agreed. -Newt was a great example.

[what's up]

I really do not believe that the base of the Dem party is "anti-war."

No, only when a Repub is Commander in Chief.

I'm not so sure they will line up to pull the lever. I'm thinking many of them are hopping mad Sheehan types and will stay home.

And this is why I think even Kerry is now making faith speeches. They know they have to lean more toward the middle to pick up the votes they are losing on the lunatic left.

[fat city]

"If Shrillery decides to run the Republicans will go after her with fangs and claws bared "

They won't- FBI files.

[DoughtyOne]

We need to disembowel the U.S. of it's foreign nationals.

We do not need to set up a network of block captains to keep tabs on every citizen.

I don't want illegal aliens voting. What's more, I don't evem want them here. Send them home and leave the citizens alone.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks Bill.

[bill1952]

Good post, but I am very skeptical about ever getting NJ, let alone NY, to cast the vote for the GOP.

I feel - I do not know - that the entire NE has gone solid blue.

[IncPen]

She can't win, but she can sure as hell steal it.

[mysterio]

What are the tradesports odds on Hillary? 10,000:1?

[seasoned traditionalist]

One should never say "Never."

   "Iran President MaHood Hand-Job's Magic Carpet"

[Froggie]

McCain will not ve a viable Republic candidate after the first 3 - 4 primaries....He has alientaed the Republican base repeateldy and no matter how much lipstick the press paints on this pig, it's still going to Oink..
Give me Fred Thompson and J D Hayworth, or Mike Pence....but I suspect it will be Guiliani at the top of the ticket, perhaps with John Cornyn in the VP slot.

[gridlock]

Unfortunately for the Donks, they may have no choice but to nominate her. She can't win a general election, but she could win an awful lot of Democrat primary contests. If she wins her share of primaries, and they deny her the nomination through the votes of Superdelegates, all Hell is going to break loose.

[devolve]

[Mogollon]

All she needs is for John McCain to run as an independent ala Ross Perot. It worked for Bill, and that's their plan. McCain will gladly go along with it.

McCain would take more lieberman-style democrat votes from hillary than he would take republican votes.

[potlatch]

Very nice post - and I'm not going to say the "L" word!!