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Pigs Won't Fly, and Hillary Won't Be President
Powerline ^ | 9/24/2006 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 09/24/2006 11:22:51 AM PDT by Uncledave

I don't go out on a limb with a lot of predictions, but one that I have offered in strong terms is that Hillary Clinton will never be President. She is too widely disliked to be elected, and too well known for that to change. Plus, when voters focus on the weirdness of putting Bill Clinton back in the White House, she would lose more ground still.

Today's Des Moines Register has poll data that illustrate the point. The Republican front-runners clobber Hillary; worse, she doesn't run well against other Republicans, either:

This survey is a further measure of just how unelectable Clinton may be. She loses Iowa, albeit by tiny margins, to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, two relatively unknown guys who lose the state to Democrats Vilsack, Kerry and Edwards. Among all Iowa voters, Clinton is viewed unfavorably by a whopping 49 percent of the electorate. Only 43 percent see her in a favorable light, and 8 percent aren't sure.

By the time they get serious about choosing a nominee for 2008, the Democrats will realize that if Hillary can't carry states like Iowa, she can't win, and they won't nominate her.

The Democrats have a number of problems; one of them is that the endless chatter about Hillary has made it hard for other candidates to get traction. The ones that have been talked about the most are two more who can't win and won't be nominated: John Kerry and Al Gore. The Democrats desperately need for other candidates, who might be able to win, to start getting some sunlight, but it's hard to see just how and when that is going to happen.


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KEYWORDS: clinton; hillary; hillaryclinton
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To: ChildOfThe60s

"And she is such a snotty elitist. She talks [down] to everyone as if they/we are all the great unwashed."

That's true, but she's so HOT!!!!!!!! That makes up for all her other shortcomings!


21 posted on 09/24/2006 11:50:22 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: theFIRMbss

No Senator has been elected in forever and now not only will a Senator win, but the first woman with the first black veep?

Sounds a little far fetched

I think McCain/Gingrich is more likely, and I don't think that htis all too likely.


22 posted on 09/24/2006 11:52:23 AM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Uncledave

23 posted on 09/24/2006 11:53:15 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democrats. French, but more cowardly.)
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To: theFIRMbss

Not in a million years.


24 posted on 09/24/2006 11:54:24 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: jeltz25

McCain? No RINO presidents, thanks.


25 posted on 09/24/2006 11:54:32 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: Uncledave

All she needs is for John McCain to run as an independent ala Ross Perot. It worked for Bill, and that's their plan. McCain will gladly go along with it.


26 posted on 09/24/2006 11:56:54 AM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Uncledave

You may be right Uncle Dave, but remember, this is the first election in my lifetime (55 years) where a sitting President or Vice-President is not running for election. I'm not sure when that last happened.

I suspect that may make Hillary look better by comparison. I don't discount her chances.


27 posted on 09/24/2006 11:57:04 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: volunbeer
I would love to know how many dimocrat votes were actually for kerry and bore and how many were just votes against President Bush.
28 posted on 09/24/2006 11:57:22 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: volunbeer
They were not exactly charismatic figures either

Well, they were both somewhat photogenic, fooling many ill-informed women. Hillary doesn't even have this quality.

However, Biden does. He does scare me somewhat.

He's a blowhard, but he can pretend to have gravitas when he needs to...which is what Kerry did.

29 posted on 09/24/2006 11:59:02 AM PDT by what's up
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To: jeltz25

If McPain gets GOP nomination, I will renounce my membership and register as a DUmmy!


30 posted on 09/24/2006 11:59:16 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: Uncledave

Hindrocket is correct that America will not elect Hillary, but I believe he is wrong to conclude that Democrats will not nominate her. I believe they will. And I think that there will be a center-left push to get the GOP to nominate McCain or Giuliani since they will see Hillary's vulnerability. This is our big chance to get a real conservative into the Whitehouse, folks. We simply mustn't compromise on our nominee, because the GOP nominee will beat Hillary for the Presidency in 2008!


31 posted on 09/24/2006 12:02:00 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: george76
That quote needs to be posted frequently. It summarizes Hillary perfectly.

Personally, I would crawl across broken glass to vote against her.
32 posted on 09/24/2006 12:03:25 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad (You cannot protect the peoples' civil liberties if you refuse to protect the people.)
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To: Uncledave
A Hillary-related blast from the past....

Injured Hillary Cop Silenced?

Run, Hillie, run....

33 posted on 09/24/2006 12:03:50 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Uncle Vlad

Hillary is awful.

Really awful.


34 posted on 09/24/2006 12:06:44 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: what's up; DoughtyOne; Uncledave
The US just won't elect someone without any charisma and she has NONE!

Kerry had the charisma of a dead pig, and he came within one state of beating a sitting president in a time of war and a good economy.

The Dems will win the NE & Ca. no matter who runs.

They will lose the SE, period.

Keeping the states that kerri won and picking up one more state, probably in the SW, will be the Clinton's strategy.

And it will be tough to beat.

35 posted on 09/24/2006 12:09:13 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: hnj_00; RobFromGa; dynachrome

Giuliani beats Clinton 56-37; Edwards, 51-43; and Kerry, 53-40.

McCain defeats Clinton 54-37; Edwards, 47-46; and Kerry, 53-39.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060924/OPINION01/609240312/1035/OPINION


36 posted on 09/24/2006 12:09:57 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: bill1952
And it will be tough to beat

Not so sure. The Dems have had to become more conciiatory about the war since last election, alienating their base.

They will be more fractured this time around and many middle-of-the-roaders have become disillioned by some of the gay marriage, abortion and anti-faith stances (thus even Kerry's pro-life statement the other day).

37 posted on 09/24/2006 12:13:22 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Hildy
yea, well wait until 10 years from now when everyone is asking the ex-president Bush why he didn't do anything about illegal immigration during his 8 year term.

Unlikely. If nothing is done, then those voting illegals made legal will be the political dynamic that tips the scales for the forseeable future, and probably forever.

And they aren't going to see Bush as the enemy.

38 posted on 09/24/2006 12:13:35 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: stm

I still think a large number of the votes for whoever the dems nominate will be against Bush (against the war). The line has been drawn by the dems and they will have to live with that for good (if Iraq continues in public perception to be a mess) or bad (if we are attacked again).



39 posted on 09/24/2006 12:14:17 PM PDT by volunbeer (Pelosi)
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To: jeltz25
Don't listen to the peanut gallery.

Your scenario is not far fetched, but I think that McCain/Rice will be the ticket.
40 posted on 09/24/2006 12:15:52 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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