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ACLU: Conceived In Tyranny
Investors Business Daily ^ | September 21, 2006

Posted on 09/21/2006 7:28:16 PM PDT by NCjim

The Enemy Within: From the beginning, the American Civil Liberties Union has aligned itself with America's adversaries. Its unrelenting strategy has been to twist our Constitution into a weapon against American values and security.

ACLU founder and longtime executive director Roger Baldwin's infamous quote still haunts his organization today, a quarter-century after the radical activist's death:

"I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."

It's a statement that's been repeated and reprinted so many times, some Americans might be numbed rather than outraged upon hearing it again. But it's no urban legend. The man who started the organization that claims to be the leading safeguard of the U.S. Constitution did say it, along with plenty of statements mirroring those sentiments.

Baldwin was already steeped in communist thought when in the late 1910s he jump-started the American Union Against Militarism, which was established to oppose the U.S. effort in World War I. Within the AUAM — the progenitor of the ACLU — Baldwin formed the Bureau of Conscientious Objectors to defend war resisters. He also joined the anti-war socialist People's Council.

In 1918, Baldwin pleaded guilty to his own draft dodging and was sentenced to a year in prison. He told his local draft board he refused to perform military service and "any service whatever designed to help the war." He opposed the draft in principle, during war or peacetime, or "for any purpose whatsoever."

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KEYWORDS: aclu; antiamericanism; auam; baldwin; civilliberties; communism; communists; culturewar; rogerbaldwin
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1 posted on 09/21/2006 7:28:16 PM PDT by NCjim
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The ACLU's goal is to replace the American way of life with Marxism.

2 posted on 09/21/2006 7:30:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: NCjim

the enemy within.


3 posted on 09/21/2006 7:32:00 PM PDT by bubman
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To: NCjim

Nice post, thanks.


4 posted on 09/21/2006 7:34:31 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: NCjim

. . . and should have been aborted.


5 posted on 09/21/2006 7:35:29 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: NCjim

They are a waste of perfectly good air IMO.


6 posted on 09/21/2006 7:36:01 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NCjim

And now there is evidence of an organized military opposition to the lawful Civilaian Rule of Government.

Is there any doubt that they have penetrated the highest levels of our country?

The Constitution says the Military is under Civilian Control. It is time to cleanse the "United States" military of traitors. The roots lead to ACLU and treason.

Also thanks to Republicans like McCain for extending Civil Liberties to every rat's child with a Kalashnikov. The ACLU will need them when the time comes...


7 posted on 09/21/2006 7:42:52 PM PDT by Nickey (Loose Lips Sink Ships.)
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To: NCjim
Another of the aclu's founders, Norman Thomas declared...

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

As with most other democrats, they never lose sight of the ultimate goal - no matter how long it takes to achieve it.

8 posted on 09/21/2006 7:48:10 PM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: NCjim
during a guided tour of the Soviet Union in 1927, was confided to by his tour guide, who "broke down and confessed that the secret police ran the country and deliberately concealed from fellow travelers the terrible torture that took place behind closed doors."

Baldwin later admitted to his biographer Peggy Lamson that he was "too prejudiced" to let that revelation affect his thinking. He told her, "Great upheavals like the Russian Revolution have their price, I told myself."

None are so blind as those who will not see,

Great Post.

9 posted on 09/21/2006 7:55:48 PM PDT by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: subazak

Commie ping


10 posted on 09/21/2006 7:58:17 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (If a monkey bangs away at a typewriter twice a week for ten years it could write an M. Dowd column.)
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To: NCjim
aclj.org

American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ)

I saw the above advertised on the tube. They have a petition to protect Military Prayer. As you all know, the Commies in the ACLU are the problem. I recently found this site and I am not totally sure about them. I signed up and signed a couple petition because they say they are fighting the ACLU. I think they may have deep pockets and they may be able to fight.

I guess we will see. Somebody has to stand up to the traitors in the ACLU.

And if the ACLU does not like being called a traitor, then maybe they shouldn't give me a reason to do so.



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And I am going to add the following because I feel I must justify callin' them Commies:

Congress shall pass no law to establish a religion or limit the free exercise of religion. A prayer in School does not establish a religion. An act of Congress establishes a religion. Saying God in the pledge of Allegiance does not establish a religion.

Again, (in case liberals just might happen to read this, I am repeating myself) IT TAKE AN ACT OF CONGRESS TO ESTABLISH A RELIGION. NO CROSS ON A HILL CAN ESTABLISH A RELIGION, ONLY CONGRESS CAN.

When the Commie traitors in the ACLU stop people from putting manger scenes on Public property, then the Commies are limiting the free exercise of Religion. When the Commies stop a pray in school, they stop the free exercise of Religion. When the Commie traitors remove the Ten Commandments they limit the free exercise of Religion.

The traitors are no longer loyal to our Constitution and should be hung, shot, exiled to France and shot again with a ICBM.

Again, I repeated myself so you liberals might understand!
11 posted on 09/21/2006 7:59:39 PM PDT by do the dhue (If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.)
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To: NCjim
This article is garbage. If you want to denounce Baldwin and the ACLU at least get the facts straight. Baldwin broke with communism in 1939. It was his trip to the Soviet Union in 1927 that caused him to realize that communism was a danger to liberty...a fact conveniently left out of the edited quote referring to 1927.

He denounced communism in his book, "A New Slavery", which condemned "the inhuman communist police state tyranny". In the 1940s, Baldwin led the campaign to purge the ACLU of Communist Party members.

Read "A New Slavery" and then tell me Baldwin and the ACLU are communists. I'll agree that the ACLU is too far to the left with its support of the Nanny State, but the ACLU is doing the job that Conservatives should be doing...and that is a sad fact.
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12 posted on 09/21/2006 8:14:39 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
the ACLU is doing the job that Conservatives should be doing

This is the way I see it:

Every once in a while, the ACLU does something to protect someone on the right. When the ACLU does something like that, it usually gets press. Then they can sit back and say that they fight for our rights too. When the fact remains that the Commies in the ACLU burn my flag, limit the free exercise of religion, and allow child porn people (perverts), and terrorist rights that I don't agree with.

I think I can protect myself just fine, but I may need some help protecting my country from the ACLU.
13 posted on 09/21/2006 8:24:16 PM PDT by do the dhue (If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.)
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To: do the dhue
Every once in a while, the ACLU does something to protect someone on the right. When the ACLU does something like that, it usually gets press.
The list is longer than you think and it rarely gets press coverage.

When the fact remains that the Commies in the ACLU burn my flag, limit the free exercise of religion, and allow child porn people (perverts), and terrorist rights that I don't agree with
Can you give specific examples?

I'll just skip to the point. I'm a Conservative. I don't want the government in my life. There are those of us who are taking an active roll in trying to move the ACLU to the right. Outrageously biased attacks on the ACLU like this article and the half truths and outright lies vomited by the likes of Bill O'Reilly make Conservatives look like ignorant fools. That plays directly into the hands of the big government socialists.
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14 posted on 09/21/2006 9:07:20 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: do the dhue

"jihad with a law degree" is humorous, but ironic and not very accurate, as far as I can tell. Can you name any ACLU attorneys who are Muslims? There may be some, but I can't identify them offhand. On the other hand, there are lots of Jewish ACLU attorneys. This is something that's not PC to point out, but the truth is that liberal Jews seem as anti-Christian as Muslims, and the difference is, they litigate.


15 posted on 09/21/2006 9:10:27 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: mugs99

Bill O'Reilly is not a conservative. Try again...


16 posted on 09/21/2006 9:29:53 PM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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To: Jay777; Grampa Dave; bitt; FreePatriot; traviskicks

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism.

But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."


17 posted on 09/21/2006 9:44:29 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: neverdem

the ACLU doesn't stand for free speech; it stands against America.


18 posted on 09/21/2006 9:48:09 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: NCjim
"It's a statement that's been repeated and reprinted so many times, some Americans might be numbed rather than outraged upon hearing it again."

From my personal observations, "numb" is the rare reaction.  Too many generations have already passed through the polluted universities where they were brainwashed into thinking that socialism and communism is a good thing and would improve this country.  These naive people (mostly the 19-30 bracket) actually welcome such a change not knowing the realities.

Of those friends I know who have come here (legally) from other countries (mostly European), they know full well what the realities would be.  They fled those realities in Europe and ask, "Where else would there be to run to now?"

Sadly, to many in the younger generations, words like "communist" and "socialist" aren't insults or persuasions to avoid.

19 posted on 09/21/2006 10:11:21 PM PDT by Outland (Socialism IS the enemy.)
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To: Treader
Bill O'Reilly is not a conservative.
That's true, he's a big government socialist. But he claims to be Conservative, he plays to a Conservative audience and he's labeled a Conservative by the media. Like it or not, the public views O'Reilly as a spokesman for Conservatism.

From the article:
"In the guise of protecting our constitutional rights, the ACLU does everything from defending child molestation advocates (as in the case of the North American Man/Boy Love Association in Massachusetts in 2000)"...Bill O'Reilly

This case was about much more than NAMBLA.
The family of Jeffrey Curley sued to have NAMBLA held responsible for the death of their son. They also wanted the membership list of NAMBLA and each member of NAMBLA held individually responsible as well.

If they would have won, the families of the victims of Dennis Rader, the BTK serial killer, would have been able to hold the Christ Lutheran Church, and each individual member of the Christ Lutheran Church, responsible for the murders committed by Dennis Rader.
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20 posted on 09/21/2006 10:17:47 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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