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McCain Stand Comes at a Price
LA Times ^ | 09-19-06 | By Janet Hook and Richard Simon, Times Staff Writers

Posted on 09/21/2006 12:10:42 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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To: MNJohnnie
THE SENATE AL-QUEDA CAUCUS


21 posted on 09/21/2006 1:49:40 AM PDT by montag813
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To: volunbeer

See how Easily you to can become a terrorist.

Barney Blasts Gay Marriage Foes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1549566/posts

>>> “Basically, they’re the disturbers of the civic peace,” <<<<


22 posted on 09/21/2006 2:10:51 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: DB
There were reports a long ways back that some of the ex-POWs were trying to trace a Cuban who was their torturer of note. Has McCain ever used his high office to assist that effort?
23 posted on 09/21/2006 3:54:54 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Labs Rules! Brilliant!)
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To: volunbeer; Jeff Chandler

>>McCain was a POW and John Kerry wore a uniform. <<

Murtha wore a uniform too. But you'll be hard pressed to find a bigger traitor to his country.


24 posted on 09/21/2006 3:57:29 AM PDT by SerpentDove (It's not rocket surgery.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

And he's a maverick!


25 posted on 09/21/2006 3:58:58 AM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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To: MNJohnnie
McCain Stand Comes at a Price

American lives.

26 posted on 09/21/2006 4:00:15 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: chuckles

"I just don't see Frist, Huccabee, Pataki, Allen, and Romney as president."

Sen Sessions, R, AL has an excellent conservative record. Not sure how far he wants to push his political aspirations though.


27 posted on 09/21/2006 4:12:43 AM PDT by Inge_CAV
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To: volunbeer

I think some people are working under the assumption that they are suspected terrorists. I've heard the Government isn't always right.


28 posted on 09/21/2006 4:18:48 AM PDT by notigar
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To: chuckles

Good job Chuckles,
Each one you mentioned seems to have issues in different areas of the country or they are generally lightweights to begin with with visions of granduer. Sort of like JOe Biden.


29 posted on 09/21/2006 4:25:24 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Jeff Chandler

John McCain was a POW.

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That was because he was such a poor pilot. How many other planes did he destroy?
When he became a POW he also became a traitor when he gave the cong all the information they wanted. That is the reason he received preferential treatment in the POW camp, and became the only POW I know of who actually gained weight as a POW.


30 posted on 09/21/2006 4:27:13 AM PDT by John D
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To: MNJohnnie
Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof.
Al Qaeda is lawless; I question whether it is even a "power" as the Conventions use the term. And anyone who proposes that al Qaeda be treated as if it were not lawless is himself lawless.

And that includes not only McCain, Graham et al, but five ninths of the Supreme Court of the United States. BTW anyone who blythely speaks of using "special forces" should recognize that undercover work - though universal among nations - is in violation of the Geneva Conventions. And, Lindsey Graham to the contrary notwithstanding, a special forces person caught in Iran - far from arousing a furious outcry in America - would not even be acknowledged by the US.


31 posted on 09/21/2006 5:07:05 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: John D

Can you cite any sources regarding McCain's piloting skills and his behavior as a POW?


32 posted on 09/21/2006 5:12:59 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean)
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To: Jacquerie

It is said that McCain received preferential treatment because of his father's rank in the US Navy.

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=126&article=23270&archive=true

Lt. Cmdr. John S. McCain III, son of retired Adm. John S. McCain Jr., former commander-in-chief Pacific.


33 posted on 09/21/2006 5:22:45 AM PDT by Inge_CAV
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To: MNJohnnie

President Bush should have a sheath installed in his back just for InSane and Co.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


34 posted on 09/21/2006 5:24:20 AM PDT by bray (Voting for the Rats is a Deathwish)
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To: Inge_CAV
It is said that McCain received preferential treatment because of his father's rank in the US Navy.

Sounds like a Katie Couric citation. Your source says nothing about preferential treatment or his piloting skills. I'll join you in slamming McCain politically for his rino actions, but you have no evidence of what you accuse him of during Vietnam.

35 posted on 09/21/2006 5:42:23 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean)
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To: Jacquerie

I gave proof of who his father is and what his rank was in the US Navy as reported in the Stars and Stripes.


36 posted on 09/21/2006 6:02:36 AM PDT by Inge_CAV
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To: Inge_CAV
McCain was a Naval Academy graduate like his father and grandfather. What does that have to do with his piloting skills or treatment in north vietnam?
37 posted on 09/21/2006 6:52:41 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean)
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To: Jacquerie

Can you cite any sources regarding McCain's piloting skills and his behavior as a POW?
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On October 27, 1967, four days after being shot down, McCain called for a North Vietnamese guard. He told the officer, "O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain

John Sidney McCain III is known among many of his Vietnam flight buddies as "Ace" McCain. This title has not been bestowed upon McCain because he destroyed five enemy aircraft. On the contrary: It was five on our side -- in fact, five of his own. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_11_16/ai_61361646


38 posted on 09/21/2006 6:59:45 AM PDT by John D
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To: Jacquerie

If you need more I can send them, it is just that they are at home.


39 posted on 09/21/2006 7:02:13 AM PDT by John D
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To: John D; F14 Pilot

Send what you want. McCain was a brave naval aviator. Anyone who flys off a carrier is. Aircraft are lost in war. Had he lost any due to incompetence he would have lost his wings. He broke like everyone else under extreme torture. He was not a traitor. Why the venom against a man who risked all during war?


40 posted on 09/21/2006 7:29:34 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean)
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