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McCain Stand Comes at a Price
LA Times ^ | 09-19-06 | By Janet Hook and Richard Simon, Times Staff Writers

Posted on 09/21/2006 12:10:42 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

WASHINGTON — Conservative activists are heaping criticism on Sen. John McCain for fighting President Bush over proposed rules for the interrogation of terrorism suspects, a dispute that has reopened long-standing divisions between the maverick Republican lawmaker and his party's establishment.

The attack from the right, which coalesced over the weekend, could undercut McCain's effort to woo Bush backers and other party regulars for an anticipated 2008 presidential bid. His position on terrorism prisoners has fueled critics' skepticism about McCain's conservative credentials.

"This very definitely is going to put a chilling effect on the tremendous strides he has made in the conservative evangelical community," said the Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, chairman of the Traditional Values Coalition, one of several conservative activists who support Bush's proposal on interrogation techniques.

Even as conservative leaders berated McCain for refusing to yield to Bush, the high-profile battle could burnish the Arizonan's credentials among admirers who have been concerned about his moves to court the GOP establishment.

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KEYWORDS: 2006elections; bush; johnmccainwho; lookatmelookatme; mccain; mcvain; politicalsuicide; readyformycloseup; yougotmyvotenot
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Ah du'h! Amazing anyone in the noise machine finally caught on.

Note to dream on McCainiancs cheeleaders. Conservatives, not these mythical "Admirers", nominate the 2008 Republican Canidate. For trying to backstab the President and hand control of the Congress over to the Dems this year, McCain and the other RINO stoodtes are politically dead in Republican circles.

1 posted on 09/21/2006 12:10:42 AM PDT by MNJohnnie
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...the high-profile battle could burnish the Arizonan's credentials among admirers...

That and everything else McCain does to prove he's out of touch with reality and Republican voters.

2 posted on 09/21/2006 12:13:52 AM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: MNJohnnie

McCain = Big Turd Muffin (sorry it's late and I can't think of anything profound to add)


3 posted on 09/21/2006 12:16:41 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: MNJohnnie

John McCain was a POW.


4 posted on 09/21/2006 12:17:59 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: LifeOrGoods?
....."McCain Stand Comes at a Price".....

Not really, he wasn't going to make it anyway. Same with Guliani, Allen and most of the other "mainstreamers". We probably don't even know who it is right now, unless it's Newt. McCain won't make it except with Dems, Guliani won't make it in the South, and the others look too lightweight. If Tancredo has more than one issue, he might have a chance. I just don't see Frist, Huccabee, Pataki, Allen, and Romney as president.

5 posted on 09/21/2006 12:21:02 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Jeff Chandler

McCain was a POW and John Kerry wore a uniform.

Those two things do not make them qualified to set policy for the rest of us.

Following the logic of the POW defense put forth by the media for McCain we should have a rehabilitated crackhead as the Director of the DEA etc etc

McCain is wrong. I was an Army officer and Geneva conventions do not apply to terrorist.


6 posted on 09/21/2006 12:22:06 AM PDT by volunbeer
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To: LifeOrGoods?

McCain watched Kerry almost get into the White House by keeping his head so far up his @ss that journalists were unable to get him to explain what he intended to do if he ever pulled his head out.
Obviously, McCain has tried this tactic many times himself because it confuses people when you have to stick your head up your @ss to check on your hidden agenda in private.
Unfortunately, McCain is an unpredictable fool while Kerry is a far more predictable fool!!!


7 posted on 09/21/2006 12:25:48 AM PDT by Stayfree (Check out our Flush Hillary Calendar at FLUSH HILLARY CALENDAR.COM!)
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To: MNJohnnie

I have never really trusted McCain. He has been a *VIP* for way too long to understand that our elected representatives - serve the people, not themselves.


8 posted on 09/21/2006 12:30:39 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: chuckles

It's not going to be Newt.


9 posted on 09/21/2006 12:32:45 AM PDT by Sunsong
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We probably don't even know who it is right now

Yep, I agree with that.

10 posted on 09/21/2006 12:32:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ann Coulter: "I love Freepers!" Told to Freeper eeevil Conservative)
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To: Stayfree
Works for McCain as long as it is him vrs the Republicans. To win the Presidency it has to be him vrs a Democrats. Watch how fast the love affairs between the Junk media and McCain dissolves once he is "mavericking" against a Dem.
11 posted on 09/21/2006 12:34:42 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ann Coulter: "I love Freepers!" Told to Freeper eeevil Conservative)
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To: Jeff Chandler; volunbeer
Bill Clinton was a draft dodger and a Anti America protestor.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1661789/posts

They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof.

Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof

6) Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war.

3 examples of where the Geneva Convention is willingly ignored by the 4 Senator Stooges with their flatulent PR spin to lie about why they are so desperate to impose their emotional whimsy on the Administration.

That "a former JAG" is this grotesquely ignorant of what Common Article 3 ACTUALLY says indicates it is merely another LIE told by the RINO clown posse to come up with YET another excuse to backstab the Administration.

Fire these 4 Stooges

12 posted on 09/21/2006 12:40:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ann Coulter: "I love Freepers!" Told to Freeper eeevil Conservative)
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To: volunbeer

Yeah, but McCain was a POW.


13 posted on 09/21/2006 12:41:17 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Who spilled his guts, when the Cong found him.....without being tortured.


14 posted on 09/21/2006 12:50:06 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: chuckles

Correct, with on exception........Newtie will NEVER be the candidate either and for many of the same reasons.


15 posted on 09/21/2006 12:51:47 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: MNJohnnie
Top 5 Reasons why McCain would never win:

- Too soft on the GWOT

- Pro Shamnesty

- Too old

- Too moderate

- Too self-serving

16 posted on 09/21/2006 1:11:25 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I can only assume you are being sarcastic.

Any other interpretation is to sad to address.


17 posted on 09/21/2006 1:11:38 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DTogo

How about that he's simply insane?

I think he's nuts.


18 posted on 09/21/2006 1:13:03 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: MNJohnnie

Yeah, gee at this rate he and Lindsay Grayed Ham might not get the nomination in '08. (rolling eyes)


19 posted on 09/21/2006 1:32:09 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: MNJohnnie

(donning tinfoil hat) I've heard some speculation amongst dentist friends that it looks like McCain might perhaps have had more surgery. Total speculation - no evidence, but if he's had a recurrence, it's possible he knows 2008 isn't an option under any circumstances. Perhaps this is his final finger to Bush and all Republicans who didn't bow down to him previously.


20 posted on 09/21/2006 1:36:58 AM PDT by Spyder
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