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To: LibertyLee; Mo1; defconw

Put your fears aside. Do what's right -- vote only for principled conservatives -- and leave the results to God.

If we vote for gun grabbing, baby killing, big government, high spending liberals (and compassionate conservatives) merely to hold the majority, are we any better than the libs who vote for gun grabbing, baby killing, big government, high spending liberals who do the same thing?

Can you blame the party elite and the politicians for ignoring our values if we are ready to ditch them to 'win'? If our values stop being valuable once the primary is over, were they worth anything to begin with? If we don't stand by our values, why should the people that we try to convince to come over to our side believe that we are sincere?

Principles, and sincere committment to them, will be what wins in the long run and will effect postive change. Selling out to the Party to 'win' or out of fear will only bring us more of the same old same old that we fight every election cycle.

Philosophy, not the 'Party', counts. The party only matters if they will advance that philosophy, not if they simply use it, and us, to hold power.


623 posted on 09/19/2006 1:41:49 PM PDT by Badray (While defending the land called America, we must also be sure to preserve the Idea called America.)
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To: Badray
Put your fears aside. Do what's right -- vote only for principled conservatives -- and leave the results to God.

Ray .. I am very principled .. but I'm also not stupid

One battle at a time

626 posted on 09/19/2006 1:44:18 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: Badray

I am mostly conservative, but I am a total Republican.


635 posted on 09/19/2006 3:02:49 PM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? (Official Snowflake))
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To: Badray

Yup, that makes sense to me. Philosophy is what matters. The party is what puts forth the philosophy, not the other way around. The party is there serving at the pleasure of the philosophy, not the reverse. That's where the liberals are all screwed up, especially the moderate or mostly conservative Democrats. They're so married to the Democrat party, they throw their beliefs out the window and vote Democrat even if it means voting for liberals who would spit in their face because they're not a liberal. That is just crazy! I'm a Christian first, American second, conservative third, and I vote Republican because the GOP most reflects the constructionist originalist values of the founders and their Christian beliefs and ideals which created the Constitution. When the GOP stops representing those founding ideals of the founders and the Constitution they wrote, I'm out. I think it's that way for most Conservatives. Thankfully, the GOP IS the conservative party, and that won't be changing.


640 posted on 09/19/2006 4:12:18 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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