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Dalrymple on Decadence, Europe, America and Islam
The Brussels Journal ^ | 2006-09-16 | Paul Belien

Posted on 09/18/2006 9:19:28 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 09/18/2006 9:19:32 PM PDT by neverdem
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2 posted on 09/18/2006 9:29:11 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

bookmarked for later.

thanks for posting this


3 posted on 09/18/2006 9:30:54 PM PDT by be4everfree
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To: Gordongekko909

Ping. I hope you keep up with Theodore Dalrymple, also.


4 posted on 09/18/2006 9:32:51 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: neverdem

Wow. This guy has some interesting observations. What a breath of fresh air.


5 posted on 09/18/2006 9:52:01 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: neverdem

Outstanding article by Dalrymple. Thanks for posting.


6 posted on 09/18/2006 9:54:19 PM PDT by PGalt (Civilization for Dummies 1.0)
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To: neverdem

These views are also expressed in an essay of Dr. Dalrymple that I posted some time ago. The article was cited by David Brooks of the N.Y.Times as the best journal article of 2004.

He's also made several appearances on C-Span. Come to think of it, I posted two of his essays -- one because it was really prophetic. It should be noted that he's lived in several Islamic societies so he gives not only clinical expertise but his direct personal observations based on actual encounters.


7 posted on 09/18/2006 10:08:56 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: neverdem

I've been a big fan since I first encountered his stuff in '99 in City_Journal.org.

Nevertheless, one of these days I'm simply going to HAVE to ask him if he took his pen name "Theodore Dalrymple" so as not to be confused with Anthony Daniels, the voice of C3PO in the "Star Wars" movies.


8 posted on 09/18/2006 10:13:42 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: neverdem

His "Life at the Bottom" eloquently described the universal psychological/moral destruction that the welfare state wreaks on human beings, whether American Indians, Australian Aboriginies or lily-white Londoners.

As a humerous aside, for you hipsters, I think of my favorite episode of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" (on the FX channel) where Dee and Dennis decide to take advantage of unemployment benefits to spend a few months on self-improvement and pursuing their dreams of making it in Hollywood. Instead, they become crack addicts...


9 posted on 09/18/2006 10:23:25 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: neverdem

BFL. its late


10 posted on 09/18/2006 10:39:16 PM PDT by oyez ( The older I get, the better I was.)
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To: neverdem
I think [secularism] is part of the cause of the [large amount of social pathology], because if people cease to believe in a transcendental purpose in life then they seek it elsewhere. If, however, at the same time you have destroyed all other possible sources of transcendental meaning to life, then the destruction of religion is a problem. I personally do not have much of a problem with not being religious, because I have a belief in trying to contribute to the culture of my country. But if I did not have anything like that, or if I were not a doctor who felt that by research I could contribute something, or if I had no cultural interests, then what would be the purpose of my life other than the flux of day to day existence? -Theodore Dalrymple

Exposing the bankrupt sociology of the Left - to provide all biological needs from cradle to grave does not set people free to invent themselves. Instead, they are bereft until they find something greater than themselves to which to contribute.

It is not only individuals but whole cultures which must aspire to something greater - the culture as a whole needs purpose or it will suffer and decay.

11 posted on 09/18/2006 11:22:07 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: neverdem

Bump.

This interview covers so much ground about Western society in amazingly few words. Theodore Dalrymple understands the world from a social and structural rather than a strictly political perspective; I always enjoy his pieces in NR.


12 posted on 09/18/2006 11:24:22 PM PDT by Tex_GOP_Cruz
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To: sinanju

...in doing so, however, he invited confusion with the travel writer William Dalrymple, who on the whole is rather better known in the UK.


13 posted on 09/19/2006 1:07:50 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: be4everfree

Bump for later


14 posted on 09/19/2006 1:23:01 AM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: Tax-chick

bttt


15 posted on 09/19/2006 3:59:54 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Please pray for Vlad's four top incisors to arrive real soon!)
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To: neverdem
also believe that the main interest of Islam for young men in Western countries is the predominance that it gives them over women.

Interesting point. I think that if one examines Islam, a lot of it is based on fear of/desire for dominance over women. If you're a Muslim male, things are just fine: you can have multiple wives (unless you're poor, in which case you can't have any at all because the richer Muslims have taken them all), you can sleep with anything that moves and have 20-minute "pleasure marriages" with prostitutes, and your women basically have to stay in your home and tend to you when you decide to favor them with your presence. And this is not because of anything you've done to merit it, but simply because you're male. Mohammed's entire system is almost obsessively based on the subjugation of women. Very weird.

16 posted on 09/19/2006 4:15:49 AM PDT by livius
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To: sinanju

I've kinda wondered about that myself.


17 posted on 09/19/2006 5:52:12 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: livius
I have noticed a kind of indulgence that they give to their "soldiers". When in the West they tend to go out on the town and enjoy the "decadent" life that the clergy back home rail against. It seems they do this to "fit in".
Nasty job, but I guess someone has to do it.
18 posted on 09/19/2006 7:15:57 AM PDT by oyez ( The older I get, the better I was.)
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To: neverdem
Quite a large proportion of the population does not derive any selfrespect from having to work for a living because some people are no better off if they work than if they do not work.

I read somewhere that labor is considered demeaning to many Muslims. They do not want to be viewed as belonging among those decendents of Adam and Eve who were condemned to toil, according to Genesis, when mankind was thrown out of Eden.

According to the author, some Muslim foreign college students in the US, who need to earn money, will choose a low-paying clerical job over a high paying job which involves significant labor.

19 posted on 09/19/2006 7:36:12 AM PDT by syriacus (If the Pope meant to insult Muslims he would have discussed mustaches.)
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Hindus seam to be inclined to be of a similar mindset. Do just enough work to get by, and faith takes care of the rest. Those Asian Indians not inclined to that philosophy tend be the leaders and the operators of the economic system. Just my observation.
20 posted on 09/19/2006 9:03:17 AM PDT by oyez ( The older I get, the better I was.)
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