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Thomas Sowell: Suicidal Hand-Wringing
Creator's Syndicate ^ | September 19, 2006 | Dr. Thomas Sowell

Posted on 09/18/2006 9:04:25 PM PDT by RWR8189

When you enter a boxing ring, you agree to abide by the rules of boxing. But when you are attacked from behind in a dark alley, you would be a fool to abide by the Marquis of Queensbury rules. If you do, you can end up being a dead fool.

Even with a nuclear Iran looming on the horizon and the prospect that its nuclear weapons will end up in the hands of international terrorists that it has been sponsoring for years, many in the media and in the government that is supposed to protect us have been preoccupied with whether we are being nice enough to the terrorists in our custody.

The issue has been brought to a head by the efforts of Senators John McCain, John Warner, and Lindsey Graham to get us to apply the rules of the Geneva convention to cutthroats who respect no Geneva convention and are not covered by the Geneva convention.

If this was just a case of a handful of headstrong senators, who want us to play by the Marquis of Queensbury rules while we are being kicked in the groin and slashed with knives, that would be bad enough. But the issue of applying the Geneva convention to people who were never covered by the Geneva convention originated in the Supreme Court of the United States.

Article III, Section II of the Constitution gives Congress the power to limit the jurisdiction of federal courts, and Congress has specifically taken away the jurisdiction of the courts in cases involving the detention of illegal combatants, such as terrorists, who are not -- repeat, not -- prisoners of war covered by the Geneva convention.

The Supreme Court ignored that law. Apparently everyone must obey the law except judges. Congress has the power to impeach judges, including Supreme Court justices, but apparently not the guts. Runaway judges are not going to stop until they get stopped.

In short, the clash between Senator McCain, et al., and the President of the United States is more than just another political clash. It is part of a far more general, and ultimately suicidal, confusion and hand-wringing in the face of mortal dangers.

The argument is made that we must respect the Geneva convention because, otherwise, our own soldiers will be at risk of mistreatment when they become prisoners of war.

Does any sane adult believe that the cutthroats we are dealing with will respect the Geneva convention? Or that our extension of Geneva convention rights to them will be seen as anything other than another sign of weakness and confusion that will encourage them in their terrorism?

No one has suggested that we disregard the Geneva convention for people covered by the Geneva convention. The question is whether a lawless court shall seize the power to commit this nation to rules never agreed to by those whom the Constitution entrusted with the power to make international treaties.

The much larger question -- the question of survival -- is whether we have the clarity and the courage to go all-out in self-defense against those who are going all-out to destroy us, even at the cost of their own lives.

There are too many signs that we do not and those signs are visible not only in our political and judicial institutions but throughout American society and western civilization.

Sheltered for years from terrorist dangers that we so much feared after the September 11th attacks, many have come to act as if those dangers do not exist and that we now have the luxury of dismantling the means by which they have been held at bay this long.

In a country where all sorts of individuals and organizations tap into our personal computers and our computerized medical, financial and other records, some have gone ballistic over the fact that the federal government tries to keep track of who is being phoned by international terrorist organizations.

No amount of security precautions can protect us from all the thousands of ways in which terrorists can strike at times and places of their own choosing -- and eventually strike with nuclear weapons. Our only hope is to get advance information from those we capture as to where other terrorists are and how they operate.

Squeamishness about how this is done is not a sign of higher morality but of irresponsibility in the face of mortal dangers.

Copyright 2006 Creators Syndicate



TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; congress; gangoffourrinos; genevaconvention; gwot; interrogation; judicialtyranny; mccain; queensberryrules; screwsloose; sowell; thomassowell; torture; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 09/18/2006 9:04:25 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: churchillbuff; Petronski; nopardons; CWOJackson; RWR8189


So there.


2 posted on 09/18/2006 9:06:17 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: RWR8189

Bureaucracies are a way to take smart, wellmeaning people and assure that they act in a way that is stupid.

Eventually it will be necessary for the people to go around the Government to get the job done.


3 posted on 09/18/2006 9:06:44 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: Gordongekko909

Ping. Yer late. Good stuff from Dr. Sowell, as always.


4 posted on 09/18/2006 9:07:25 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: RWR8189
"Squeamishness about how this is done is not a sign of higher morality but of irresponsibility in the face of mortal dangers."

Precisely.

5 posted on 09/18/2006 9:08:57 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: RWR8189
The stupidity of the Gang Of Four RINOs is breathtaking. They know the terrorist reject civilized warfare. Their answer to us was 9/11. Why they insist on enforcing the Geneva Convention in a situation where it is clearly inapplicable is a mystery. They are saying in effect terrorists' rights take precedence over the safety of our own country! McCain, Graham, Warner and Collins should hear themselves. Their position as stated makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

6 posted on 09/18/2006 9:09:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FairOpinion


He always nails it.
Always.


7 posted on 09/18/2006 9:10:09 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: RWR8189

bttt


8 posted on 09/18/2006 9:12:59 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Ma'am, you don't have to thank us. You just go beat him for us." Soldier to Irey re: Murtha)
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To: RWR8189

Dr. Sowell's columns are always good but he really nailed this one. BRAVO!


9 posted on 09/18/2006 9:13:25 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: RWR8189

I would like to second the Popes insult to Mohammed and
also to add injury to that insult I would like to insult
the idiotic god of the muslims Allah. I would also like to invite injured and insulted muslims to bring their knives to a gunfight.


10 posted on 09/18/2006 9:19:49 PM PDT by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: goldstategop
Usama bin Laden said, "We will use their laws against them".

The US now has fools proffering legislation in Congress favorable to the terrorists' dictum.
11 posted on 09/18/2006 9:20:07 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: onyx

It seems we have too few members of congress who are "sane adults" - including those who wear the Republican label.

Obviously allowing the leftists to regain control is suicidal, but voting the current ilk back in power would serve to reinforce bad government - unless - maybe - there was a landslide with those of us who do see our congressional - and presidential insanity (illegals) screaming at the top of our lungs the right things to do...

I've got to stop dreaming like this. It's going to make me insane.


12 posted on 09/18/2006 9:20:59 PM PDT by plsjr (one of His ()()
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To: RWR8189

Another great article from T Sowell!


13 posted on 09/18/2006 9:21:57 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: RWR8189

Outstanding article from Dr. Sowell. Thanks for posting it.


14 posted on 09/18/2006 9:24:47 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: plsjr
The senate really is a club and its members will say and do almost anything to retain membership. To wit: Loserman. Gets beat in his party's primary and can't stand losing his membership, so he mounts a campaign as a faux independent.

Are these people power hungry or what?
15 posted on 09/18/2006 9:34:23 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: plsjr

Now if Irey wins and other Congressional districts around the country defy the lying pollsters and we win More seats rather than the predicted losses....

Maybe with fewer liberal and communist idiots in Congress, this suicidal thinking will be dampened.

I can dream, too....


16 posted on 09/18/2006 9:34:39 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: RWR8189

Commentary thus far has an uncanny ring of polite applause at a tennis match.

Inasmuch as we are at war,invaded by some 30 million illegals, are divided almost entirely in half, have a enemy friendly MSM and are being betrayed by almost all of our allies, do you suppose that the good Dr. Sowell would expect us do a little more than polite applause?

Or am I just being another dang neocon niusance again?


17 posted on 09/18/2006 9:47:43 PM PDT by CBart95
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To: CBart95
"Commentary thus far has an uncanny ring of polite applause at a tennis match."

Once Thomas Sowell speaks on a subject, there is little left to say.

I'll wager on this, the good Doctor will be voting in November, and he will vote a straight Republican ticket, no matter how many Republicans he criticizes, and he will criticize aplenty.
18 posted on 09/18/2006 9:57:11 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Free Iran! WARNING! Forbidden Cartoon: .. . *-O(( :-{>. . . .)
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To: RWR8189

Are the 3 RINOs confused? or do they MEAN to kill us?

How could a former Navy pilot want us to sacrifice our men for NOTHING? Because that would be the effect of McCain's great ideas: Catch the terrorists at great cost in American blood, then let them go for fear of being non-PC.

It's sickening. We should all give the 3 of them a call tomorrow on the toll-free Congressional phone lines!

As for President Bush, I think he's done a smart thing by trying to go along with the Supremes - but making very clear why he thinks they are wrong. I just hope it works.

Thanks for a good article.


19 posted on 09/18/2006 10:03:29 PM PDT by Jerez2
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To: goldstategop

They acts as though foreign opposition to our policy is owing to treatment of the thugs we capatured. But they reason reason for opposition has nothing to do with this; it is part of an effort to tie down Gulliver with threads.


20 posted on 09/18/2006 10:04:41 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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