Posted on 09/18/2006 7:43:27 PM PDT by tobyhill
You're a sickening little twit, aren't you?
Geneva article 3 is pretty clear. all you have to ask yourself is whether the treaty would have been ratified, if the provisions in it meant what McCain thinks they mean. no way in hell would it ever have been ratified, so that tells you all you need to know about its intrepretation.
What McCain and Anthony Kennedy want to do - is REWRITE it.
You talkin to me - or to the Republican heavyweights who agree with me, like Gen. Vessey (Reagan's top general), George Schultz (Reagan's Sec of State), Gen. Powell (Reagan's, Bush I's and Bush II's everything?) A bunch of twits, all of them, yessirree.
Right, that's why we have rounded up all of the Muslims, or did you forget the forcible internment of 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry?
Republican heavyweights? LOL
Shultz was a fat bastard, but Powell is just a bony fool.
Keith Olberman is on your side...you should be proud
I agree - Bush has done all he can on this issue, the people have the power to vote, if they hand people like McCain and Graham and Warner the power to decide - then whatever happens, they've gotten the government they deserve.
According to an AP story tonight, so are a growing number of House Republicans. I've always been a Republican because I consider it the party with conscience., That's why it's pro-life. And that's why, in the end, it's not going to be pro-torture. The party of Lincoln, TR, Eisenhower and Reagan has too much conscience in its genetic code.
of course we did. we didn't do it ROUTINELY, and it wasn't a ROUTINE part of military practice with POWs, but you can bet it was done in key circumstances by parts of the US intelligence community on certain captured persons - and that's the ability we need to maintain today. Bush isn't arguing that every person captured by the US military, should be routinely beaten to a pulp by a group of privates in the army and marines. That's the spin the left is trying to put on this "torture" issue.
You want to read what Olbemann said ...here ya go: (I couldnt get through it)
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/18/olbermann-the-president-of-the-united-states-owes-this-country-an-apology/
but what I would like to know is - from a purely political angle - if George Allen wants to be president, why isn't he out there pounding away on this issue, and taking it to McCain and his henchmen? the issue is easy to frame.
Maybe the Court should not have asked Congress to write the law!
Congress simply needs to write into the law that the president has this authority if the national interest and safety is at stake.
But they won't give the president the power he needs. Previously, the president simply took it and did it. The Constitution allows him to do so, if the Congress does not specify.
The Court in it's stupidity, as it is miffed with congress, has asked congress to bite it, and do it.
They are balking!
The whole thing is all a separation of powers issue. The president needs it, and they are caught in a trick bag.
Before this is over, they will figure out a way or we lose this tool. But if not united, the Dems will block it on a 60 vote parliamentary move, and nothing the president can do will change the fact that we have tied our hands.
In the end, the detainees will not be tried, the CIA will shoot the next detainee after field interrogation, or they will not make it that far and we will have lost a very effective tool in the war on terror.
Inactions have consequences, just as actions do. Waterboarding is benign. It is not dangerous to the detainee, and his medical condition is monitored for unforeseen problems. We are at war.
Shoot the lawyers!
I think the MSM has convinced all the other Republican contenders that McCain is the one to beat and that's almost impossible.
For at least one person around here it's the fact that President Bush is still President.
The people at Gitmo are NOT POWs; they wear no uniform. And FDR had such foreign combatants SHOT!
I don't care if Hillary wins. Or the devil himself. There is not ONE circumstance on Earth in which I'd vote for this worthless traitor named John McCain.
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