Posted on 09/18/2006 7:07:41 PM PDT by radar101
SAN DIEGO – More than 300 Chinese and Chinese-Americans cheered and waved the two nations' flags Monday morning on a pier at San Diego Naval Base, a noisy greeting for two Chinese navy ships making a rare visit to U.S. mainland port. Hundreds of Chinese sailors in white uniforms with blue neckerchiefs stood stiffly at the rails of the destroyer Qingdao and the auxiliary ship Hongzehu as they cruised into port.
It was only the second visit ever of People's Liberation Army vessels to San Diego, and the first since 1997.
Chinese-American dancers and drummers entertained before a pierside ceremony. Base commander Capt. D.R. Smith and Rear Adm. Wang Fushan, deputy commander of the Chinese North Sea Fleet, exchanged brief remarks.
“As soon as we arrived, we received a warm welcome,” Fushan said. “I would like to extend my heartfelt thanks for your hospitality.”
Fushan invited visitors and the media aboard the Qingdao for a tour and photographs. The Chinese sailors smiled and posed for photos.
Chinese and U.S. armed forces began a series of tentative contacts in the late 1990s, but they ended abruptly in early 2001 after a Chinese fighter jet collided with a Navy EP-3 surveillance aircraft off China's coast. The Chinese pilot died, and the U.S. crew was held prisoner for 11 days after the EP-3 was forced to land on Hainan Island.
But since last year, Pacific forces commander Adm. William Fallon has stressed closer ties with the Chinese military, a move welcomed by local Chinese-Americans.
“I think the U.S. and the Chinese should know each other,” said Frank Liu, president of the 2,000-member San Diego Chinese Association. “I'm hoping the United States and China can have a better relationship.”
Asian cultures are blood based. You’re either born one of “us” or you’re not.
They also think the rest of the world thinks the same way. So they naturally assume that Americans will never consider them to be “real Americans”. Which makes it a self fulfilling prophecy.
But there are the exceptions that prove the rule.
Yes, and it starts with not being raised in heavily Asian concentrated areas and get poisoned by the culture at a young age.
They don’t need to completely abandon it, but a healthy amount interaction with traditional Americans and American culture from a young age will be enough to counteract the programming.
But aren't you taking something, that was meant to be polite, into something more than it really is. I was talking to someone once and did refer to whites as "whites". I felt uncomfortable using that term so I asked if I should use the term "European American" or "whites". He shook his head and just said "Americans". But he himself used Asian, Black, etc. for describing other Americans that were not white.
So what term is a minority to use, when describing people who are white? And it goes back to my original arguement, that political correctness does indeed swing both ways.
I would agree. But which set of political paradigms would they need to observe? If someone who is white spoke beamingly of "German Engineering" when admiring a Mercedes that wouldn't be taken as unAmerican. But can you honestly say that an Asian person who speaks beamingly of "Japanese Reliability" and "Japanese Technology" wouldn't be seen as more unAmerican than the white guy who speaks beamingly of "German Engineering"?
I'm not trying to be contenteous. I'm just trying to relay, that political correctness swings both ways. Just look at what started this thread and all the highly negative things that are said. If the Queen of England came into town, she would get a huge reception and no one would question the motives.
It has nothing to do with political correctness. These attitudes are ingrained in Asian cultures for thousands of years.
You’re the one who’s being political correct. You’re the one who is making the assumption that “all cultures are essentially similar”, that when Chinese Americans cheer the warships of the PRC, that it’s no different from a WASP American applauding the Queen of England. When in reality they are completely different, they are completely different because Chinese culture is *not* the same as English culture, and the motivation behind the actions are not the same.
Take it from me...I know first hand... They are HERE. The ethnic populations must be Americanized. And the ethnic radio stations and newspapers must be monitored. The multicultural cesspool that has been created by the left has taught our immigrants not to repsect this country, and it has taught our enemies that it could infiltrate it much easier by using our tolerance against us.
What, would you contend, is the purpose of 'political correctness'?
The purpose of political correctness is “social control” and “inner harmony” among the populace. It is an elite movement, largely supported by women.
I would add political control.
How does the 'political correctness' PL says he sees among the ethnic majority in this country benefit them?
Answer - it doesn't.
So, by definition, it doesn't exist.
We now have many “Fifth Columns” in our Country now thanks to our ridiculous Immigration Laws.
Courtesy of Ted “Fat Boy” Kennedy circa 1965.
What is the different motivation then? This ship was a guest of the United States. And Americans went out to greet them.
To not offend others.
Let me clarify what it is, though Political correction is the withholding of statements or comments that another party might deem or perceive as offensive. Or to make statements or comments and omit certain comments that another party might deem or perceive as offensive.
I'm not saying whether it is good or bad. Just that minorities are held to it as well. That it isn't only white males that have to concern themselves with who they offend. White Americans, typically would worry about being branded racists when conveying a political view. Minorities typically would worry about being branded unpatriotic when conveying a political view.
So, I believe PC swings both ways.
Its a form of social control, propagated largely by (gasp) whites, who want to both assuage their guilt and promote "social harmony."
What Ponder says is very much correct: Why is the St. Paddy's day parade "accepted" while a Middle Eastern parade is not?
I already told you, you just don’t want to believe it.
The went out there because they *identified* with it, to many of them, it’s “our ship”.
Americans applaud the Queen of UK because they are courteous, they don’t think of her as “our Queen”.
Different cultural tradition define “us” and “them” differently, stop being so PC, go actually learn about these cultures, then come back and we can have a real discussion.
Mind control. Period.
Americans applaud the Queen of UK because they are courteous, they don’t think of her as “our Queen”.
But honestly, I feel the opposite is true. I believe they were just being courteous to the visiting Chinese ship. And that people in America DO identify with the Queen of England. And the Royal Family. Why do you think people paid so much attention to Princess Di's death? It's like one of their own passed away. Why not the Egyptian guy who she was with? Heck, I can't even remember what he looked like because soooooooooo little coverage was given to him.
There was a tremendous about of kinship that was extended to Princess Di that went above and beyond courtesy and concern. Her life, her legacy, her travels were not made secret but covered extensively. I'm not criticizing it. Merely pointing out that there is a great deal and overwhelming kindship that many white Americans feel towards their European cousins. A kinship, that other ethic groups cannot extend to their ancestorial country without appearing unAmerican or unpatriotic.
Look at music in the 60's. It is nostalgically referred to as the "British Invasion". You certainly wouldn't hear that term for a non-European country in a kinship sort of way would you? Of course not, it just doesn't happen.
I would agree. Who claimed anyone was being held hostage?
Its a form of social control, propagated largely by (gasp) whites, who want to both assuage their guilt and promote "social harmony."
Obviously political correctness is an invention of 'white' leadership. Otehrwise it would've never gained a toehold. You do not go far enough with your analysis, though. PC equals political power.
What Ponder says is very much correct: Why is the St. Paddy's day parade "accepted" while a Middle Eastern parade is not?
I'm still unclear regarding this point - cinco de mayo & chinese new year are not accepted? What is meant by 'accepted'? Do you mean they are more widely acknowleged?
I know you “feel” the opposite is true.
I’m just going to put it as bluntly as possible, you’re wrong.
Because you do not know the facts. You haven’t studied it, you have little first hand knowledge on the subject. You want to “feel” better about the situation, so you make false assumptions.
Like I said in a previous post. Go do some real research.
How do I research what you are claiming and where do I start? You claim Asian culture have a we and them mentality and European cultures do not. How does one go about prove or disapprove through historical accounts? Are not today's events good enough to demonstrate what I am saying is true?
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