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Al Qaeda vows jihad over Pope remarks
News.com.au ^ | September 18, 2006 | Agence France-Presse

Posted on 09/18/2006 2:20:06 AM PDT by generalhammond

AL-QAEDA in Iraq has said in response to remarks by Pope Benedict XVI linking Islam with violence that it will wage jihad until the West is defeated, in a statement posted on the Internet today. "We say to the servant of the cross (the Pope): wait for defeat ... We say to infidels and tyrants: wait for what will afflict you. "We continue our jihad. We will not stop until the banner of unicity flies throughout the world," said the statement attributed to the Mujahideen consultative council. "We will smash the cross ... (you will have no choice but) Islam or death," the statement added, citing a hadith (saying of the Prophet Mohammed) promising Muslims they would "conquer Rome ... as they conquered Constantinople". Two other armed groups in Iraq, Jaish al-Mujahideen and Asaeb al-Iraq al-Jihadiya, have already threatened the Vatican with reprisals in statements posted on Islamist websites.

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To: generalhammond
This is Al-Qaeda's recruitment commercial, like an Army Of One spot for our military.

They'll use this to recruit suicide bombers and terrorists and fighters in Iraq. Also to further radicalize the internal Islamists in Europe to attack their own countries. And they'll raise funds. With people like this, the most extreme and violent faction gets all the respect and attention.

Essentially, this was a political statement to draw in funds and volunteers.
41 posted on 09/18/2006 3:31:27 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: generalhammond

It makes no difference what they say the causes of "jihad" or 9/11 are (or were).

In my experience, if one reason doesn't suit their purposes, or is invalidated, they simply choose another one.

They did it because of the American Occupation of Iraq. No?

They did it because of the American Occupation of Afghanistan. No?

They did it because of the sanctions against Iraq. No?

They did it because of the Clinton Missle Strikes in 1998. No?

They did it because of the American actions in Bosnia. No?

They did it because of the American presence in Kuwait. No?

They did it because of the American presence in Saudi Arabia. No?

They did it because of the First Gulf War. No?

They did it because of America's support of Israel. No?

They did it because of America's involvement in Lebanon. No?

They did it because of America's support of the Shah of Iran. No?

They did it because of Western Colonialism. No?

They did it because they live in repressive, misogynistic poverty stricken societies, resent the fact they are stuck in the middle ages and have squandered any advantages they once held because they refuse to believe that non-islam has anything to offer them. They did it because they are consumed with self-loathing and insecurity. No?

Well, tomorrow is a new day. There has to be some excuse.


42 posted on 09/18/2006 3:32:36 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Bluebird Singing

...and what is it about a cross that has them so worked up? It must be a symbol that represents something they are at murderous odds with? Let me see? Allah does not have a son. So are they jealous, because the Christian God does have a son, or are they just murderous because? Does the reason they are murderous, even matter? Antichrist certainly applies, antijew, antiisrael, antiUS, antizionist, antianything that isn't Sharialaw. Is there anything they are for besides religious, and military control of the world, your death and mine?


43 posted on 09/18/2006 3:33:16 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Bronzewound

Learn to play bass lines with yer thumb: he'll descend from heaven wearin' a Stetson and doodah cowboy boots. Honest.


44 posted on 09/18/2006 3:33:23 AM PDT by dasboot
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To: generalhammond

"We will smash the cross ... (you will have no choice but) Islam or death..."

Thus proving Pope Benedict's original statement correct.


45 posted on 09/18/2006 3:33:37 AM PDT by Catholic Iowan
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To: JillValentine
"...However, combine the efforts of the Islamofascists and the fifth-columnists like the French press and the New York Times, and we're in danger..."

Don't forget to include Democrats and Liberals in there...

46 posted on 09/18/2006 3:34:00 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: generalhammond
In order to promote clarity, Al Qaeda New Release Center has announced a policy change. In the future, Al Qaeda will identify only those against whom it does NOT have a current Jihad in effect.

Mohommed Ali Newsquy released this statement: "Allah likes easy record-keeping."

47 posted on 09/18/2006 3:34:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troo This means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: goldstategop
"...I don't see how you can have a dialogue with those who want us dead. ..."

Gems of Truth from Rush Limbaugh...he has been saying exactly that for a while.

48 posted on 09/18/2006 3:35:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: generalhammond
It's really too funny. Like dealing with morons.

He linked their faith with violence so now they're going to be violent.

Whoo-hoo. You wonder if they ever stop and look at themselves in a mirror.

49 posted on 09/18/2006 3:39:24 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Catholic Iowan
"Thus proving Pope Benedict's original statement correct."

And they'll do it every time!

Notice how righteously they brutally torture innocents,
they kill women and children indiscrimantly,
They behead our people with a blade and film it,
while vehemently reacting to the Abu Graib situation,
calling us on torture
which leads them to call for more death?

And this without a prick of conscience?

50 posted on 09/18/2006 3:48:46 AM PDT by ThirstyMan (hysteria: the elixir of the Left that trumps all reason)
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To: goldstategop

yes! They need to put jihad back to where it is best served--against themselves--against there own evil interior. I am past my last leg with these yahoos and all the fifth columnists right along with them. Thank God for Freeper humor.


51 posted on 09/18/2006 3:49:39 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: generalhammond; Rokke
"We will smash the cross ... (you will have no choice but) Islam or death,"

As you say,
"Definitely people we can negotiate with"

52 posted on 09/18/2006 3:53:59 AM PDT by evad (sarcasm may be introduced at any moment of any post)
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To: M. Thatcher
Are these people entirely irony-deficient?

So...it's just a dietary supplement thing?

53 posted on 09/18/2006 3:57:39 AM PDT by evad (sarcasm may be introduced at any moment of any post)
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To: dasboot
that makes the world very dangerous for folks who like bass fishin' BBQ, and Travis pickin' on the back porch, I reckon.

That's what really makes me mad - all we want is basically to do nice, harmless stuff, like hanging out, or surfing, or riding our bikes, or putting some porkchops in the smoker, and all they want to do is kill us. I mean, they could be out bass fishing too (if they weren't members of an insane death cult), and the world would sure be a lovely place. We were just pickin on the back porch when this bunch of hooded nutcases came along. This war is all of their doing.

54 posted on 09/18/2006 3:58:05 AM PDT by livius
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To: generalhammond

The remarks by the Pope were right on! I am concerned that we are on the brink of WWIII; we may already be there, but our side does not recognize that we are. Our country is still importing muslims in record numbers, i.e. accepting legal immigrants from muslim countries. Even though terrorist cells have been found in growing muslim communities in Detroit and Northern Virginia, we continue to import muslims (of which we know a certain percentage are terrorist cells).

I would expect that some of the European countries will accept Shira law soon enough; that would be a conquest without bloodshed. Iran is posturing itself for the use of atomic energy to conquer the world; they already have sent to our President a letter asking him to convert. The muslims react violently whenever their religion is criticized by cartoons or words. The muslims continue to destroy churches (by the hundreds) and kill clergy (probably by the thousands) while the MSM remains silent. Perhaps the MSM is owned by muslim interests? Between muslim interests and America Haters (George Soros, Democrats and others) working from within, the MSM indeed is a fifth column.

The USA with its moral relativism, diversity, dumbed down universities, profiling, obsession with homosexual rights, culture of death, and other pursuits and policies that lack common sense, are wittingly and unwittingly aiding the enemy while the rest of the country sleeps.

We have cause to be concerned.


55 posted on 09/18/2006 4:01:25 AM PDT by olezip
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To: generalhammond

So because the Pope linked Islam with violence they've declared a jihad. Well at least they're not proving him right. /s


56 posted on 09/18/2006 4:02:05 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: dasboot
…he'll descend from heaven wearin' a Stetson and doodah cowboy boots. Honest.

LOL - That I've gotta see; gettin' the Collings out of the case right now.

57 posted on 09/18/2006 4:02:16 AM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: generalhammond
"AL-QAEDA in Iraq has said in response to remarks by Pope Benedict XVI linking Islam with violence that it will wage jihad..."

Do Muslims understand irony?

58 posted on 09/18/2006 4:02:27 AM PDT by Axhandle
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To: Axhandle

I'm beginning to think that there must be a line in the Koran that allows you to do whatever someone else accuses you of.


59 posted on 09/18/2006 4:06:52 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Bronzewound
Y'know, talkin' about geetars is a lot more fun than yakkin' about a scurvy pox like Islam.

Collings, eh?

Consider this an official hijack of an irritating thread.

80/20? PB? Can you play "Smoke on the Water??" :^)

60 posted on 09/18/2006 4:08:15 AM PDT by dasboot
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