Posted on 09/17/2006 7:27:43 PM PDT by Sharks
RIVERSIDE An event billed as an educational forum about federal immigration law quickly became a rally against illegal immigration yesterday as speakers decried an invasion of illegal immigrants and warned a second Civil War is brewing.
Addressing a supportive crowd of about 30 at Spring Garden Park, speakers from the Federation for American Immigration Reform, Connecticut Citizens for Immigration Control and the Buchanan 2008 Campaign a grassroots effort to convince political pundit Pat Buchanan, who famously called for a wall to be built along the U.S.-Mexico border, to run for president blamed illegal immigrants for driving down wages and sucking up welfare.
The angriest rhetoric came from Miguel Cruz and Carmen Morales of You Don't Speak for Me, American Hispanic Voices Speaking Out Against Illegal Immigration, who condemned illegal immigrants for ineffectual schools, debasing U.S. culture and bastardizing the English language.
Go back to where you came from, Morales said. You are not citizens. You don't belong here.
Standing in a pavilion draped with American flags, Cruz was even more strident, calling illegal immigrants murderers, rapists, child molesters, gang members and illiterate carriers of disease.
To those who disagree, Cruz said, You are racists; you are traitors because you hate America. To some of us, it smells like there is a civil war approaching and this American is ready.
I haven't seen such hate since the March on Selma, said Dave Verduin, the president of a coalition of local business owners and landlords opposed to Riverside's recently enacted anti-illegal immigrant ordinance. I came because they said it would be a non-partisan forum. This is misinformation; they said it would be educational.
Are you asking me to quit posting here?
No, just stating what should be obvious.
Dear Dave;
Sounds to me like it very much WAS educational...
Maybe it's you who expected a more profit oriented lesson?
That's a nice idea but it will never work. People generally come onto political forums with a closed mind.
That's a joke, right?
I must be dense after a long work day. What is the Obvious?
Howlin is NOT a moderator.
Onyx is NOT a moderator.
LOL --- you have just managed to upset a whole lot of afers who blame us for their demise(s).
No, it is not. Other than a few token libs we keep for fun, all liberals that register here are shown the door fairly quickly.
You'd be surprised by the amount of people I've convinced to see other sides of issues through interacting through FReepmail. Some have relapsed when their masters scolded them, but patriots only need a sign that they're supported.
The label says "beef", but there's spam in the can.
Kinda makes the label meaningless.
But hey! Some folks like spam, so they don't mind.
The spammers are shown the door just as quickly as the liberals.
I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate;
Our family knows first hand the intimidation of humiliation in a communist country. You are spot on in your interpretation.
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Am beginning to think that that's precisely what a major goal of so much DIMRAT communications and pontifications are, too . . . especially from
SHRILLERY Antoinette de Fosterizer de Machiavelli de Marx de Pol Pot de Mao de Stalin . . . de Sade's office.
Well, I guess this place is clean as a whistle, then. All good conservatives of good standing, with nothing but good intentions towards all of their conservative brethren and zeal for the conservative ideal. Dang, what was I worrying about?
Oh, go ahead and spit it out EV. Say RINO.
Anyone who doesn't march to your specific agenda is deemed and called a RINO by you.
Well, I wouldn't go that far. There are no clean hands on either side of some of our more contentious issues. Your hands are just as dirty as anyone else's.
I thought you said we were all conservatives here.
What do you mean, "sides"?
Thank you for proving my point EV: anyone who doesn't march to your specific agenda is deemed and called a RINO by you.
Jim's post is perfectly clear. Conservatives do not necessarily view contentious issues in the same way you and other conservatives do, and that does not make us RINOs.
I find it amazing that you say "my hands are dirty" from consistently, for six and a half years, defending the stated goals on your homepage.
Bottom line is that I'll never understand your love affair with certain liberals (yes, liberals) who spend their time here, every day, undermining and attacking conservatives and conservatism.
A few token liberals I can appreciate. A few curmudgeons to keep things interesting. Sure. But those who are constantly hostile to the conservative cause? Nope. I don't get that. Never will.
I'll leave it at that.
Cheapshot.
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