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Tearing the registry down when it is clearly working would be a terrible waste, argues Wendy Cukier
Toronto (Red) Star ^ | 09/17/06 | Wendy Cukier

Posted on 09/17/2006 9:46:19 AM PDT by Heartofsong83

Tearing the registry down when it is clearly working would be a terrible waste, argues Wendy Cukier

Sep. 17, 2006. 01:00 AM WENDY CUKIER

Although the evidence shows clearly that Canada, and particularly Quebec, is much safer since 1989, the year of the Montreal massacre, the Dawson College shootings remind us how vulnerable we are and how much more can be done. All the Dawson facts are not yet known; but we do know we need to maintain and strengthen our gun laws.

While no law can prevent all tragedies, licensing gun owners and registering guns reduces the risks that dangerous people will have access to weapons. And while support for police investigations, border controls and effective justice responses are important, the primary focus must be on prevention. A focus only on deterrence is doomed to fail.

The response of the gun lobby and its political allies has been predictable. It claims the Dawson shooting "proves" gun control doesn't work because legally obtained guns were used. When Justice Minister Vic Toews introduced legislation repealing the registration of rifles and shotguns, he claimed that because only two such weapons were used in homicides it also "proved" the registry doesn't work.

Some pro-gun advocates have even maintained, in recent letters to this newspaper, that the tragedy "proves" more guns are needed, that if we carried concealed weapons as they do in the U.S., we would be safer. This flies in the face of reality: If arming for self-protection worked, the U.S. would be the safest country in the world. It clearly is not.

No law can prevent all gun violence. However, the evidence does support the argument that industrialized countries with higher rates of gun ownership also have higher rates of death. Canada, the U.S., Britain and Australia have comparable rates of violence generally but lethal violence — homicide — is much higher in the U.S. In 2004 for example, 175 Canadians were murdered with firearms compared to more than 10,000 south of the border.

We need to start with a clear understanding of the problem. The claim that we are punishing law-abiding gun owners, by requiring that they obtain a licence and register their weapons, ignores the real risks associated with gun ownership and the importance of ensuring that owners are carefully screened and held accountable.

The claim that we should focus on "the criminal element" ignores the fact that many of the guns used by "criminals" — for example, the handgun in the Toronto Boxing Day murder — come from legal gun owners and that a criminal record is not the only risk factor.

Suggestions that rifles and shotguns are harmless "tools" ignores the reality that long guns in the wrong hands are just as deadly as handguns. Most of the police officers killed in recent years have been killed with rifles and shotguns. If we don't acknowledge what the real problems are, we can hardly undertake effective solutions.

In Canada, major public safety organizations, including national police groups, continue to defend the existing legislation. The law is not perfect. Certainly too much money was spent on the registry. But tearing down the system now that it is working would be a terrible waste.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wendy Cukier, a professor at Ryerson University, is president of the Coalition for Gun Control.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; barf; barfalert; canada; firearmsregistry; guncontrol; gunregistry; loonyleft; quebec
No surprise coming out of the Coalition for Gun Control, led by anti-gun activist Wendy Cukier. They probably want all guns banned and confiscated.
1 posted on 09/17/2006 9:46:20 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83

She has departed Earth's orbit. How's the weather on Planet Zongo, Wendy?


2 posted on 09/17/2006 9:48:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick (A beautiful day in North Carolina, and Vlad can crawl.)
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To: Heartofsong83

Is that name pronounced "KOOK-ee-er"?


3 posted on 09/17/2006 9:49:56 AM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: Redcloak

I think so.


4 posted on 09/17/2006 9:50:16 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83
They need to make guns really, really, really illegal. >S
5 posted on 09/17/2006 9:51:15 AM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki
Gun control won't work until it's illegal for criminals to have guns ... and until criminals always obey the law.
6 posted on 09/17/2006 9:57:08 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Heartofsong83

The Left has never seen a wasteful and ineffective government program it didn't love.


7 posted on 09/17/2006 10:01:49 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democrats. French, but more cowardly.)
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To: Heartofsong83

Let's compromise, all those in favor of the Canadian Gun Registry like Wendy Cukier will be prohibited from ever owning or operating ANY kind of firearm whatsoever. They will also be required to post signs at their residences "GUN FREE ZONE", bumper stickers on their vehicles that proclaim "NO GUNS IN VEHICLE", and always wear a five inch diameter button on their clothing when in public that says "I AM UNARMED".

The rest of the public can proceed to own firearms and defend themselves if need be.

If the voluntarily self-disarmed good citizens shouldn't survive the wait time if summoning police via 911?

Oh well, it's a small price to pay for seeking a peaceful society.


8 posted on 09/17/2006 10:03:57 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Heartofsong83

Are these people working for the Jamaican posses or what?


9 posted on 09/17/2006 10:05:25 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Heartofsong83
"If arming for self-protection worked, the U.S. would be the safest country in the world. It clearly is not."

What is the safest country in the world? What are the laws on firearms in that country?

10 posted on 09/17/2006 10:16:20 AM PDT by Plain Old American (Remember who said what; Remind those who don't Remember; Vote and take a friend to the polls)
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To: Heartofsong83
"We need to start with a clear understanding of the problem."

That's the last thing anyone wants, lady. Who are you trying to kid? Why don't you wankers grow a pair and teach honest, law-abiding folks to shoot center mass? I can't think of a better outcome as far as that goes. Instead, as near as I can tell, the politically correct thing to do is just die, don't ask too many questions, and a group of self-loathing apologetics will hold a candle-light vigil and propose "new" conflicting legislation. No thanks.
11 posted on 09/17/2006 10:26:15 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Heartofsong83

"While no law can prevent all tragedies, licensing gun owners and registering guns reduces the risks that dangerous people will have access to weapons. "

This assumes that dangerous people are law-abiding and will try to register a gun. What has this woman been smoking?


12 posted on 09/17/2006 10:27:16 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Heartofsong83

The claim that we should focus on "the criminal element" ignores the fact that many of the guns used by "criminals" — for example, the handgun in the Toronto Boxing Day murder — come from legal gun owners and that a criminal record is not the only risk factor.

What's up with the quotes? And why is she implying that the legal gun owners are the real criminals? That's a rhetorical question - I already know the answer.


13 posted on 09/17/2006 10:30:59 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Heartofsong83
Wendy Cukier, a professor at Ryerson University, is president of the Coalition for Gun Control.

Wendy Cukier, a professor at Ryerson University, is an idiot.

14 posted on 09/17/2006 10:32:53 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Heartofsong83; All
So. Canadian Gun Control really works, eh?

15 posted on 09/17/2006 2:08:22 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe; All

Great link in your #15 post backhoe!!!!

The comments were so on point, and some really put it to the gun registration backers.

Thanks for the link!!

BTTT #15 bookmark and bump!!


16 posted on 09/17/2006 2:28:29 PM PDT by musicman
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Great link in your #15 post backhoe! The comments were so on point, and some really put it to the gun registration backers. Thanks for the link!! BTTT #15 bookmark and bump!!

Glad you liked it- Free Dominion is our sister site, my fallback when FR is down or slow, and home to many fine Canadians. EdS is a good guy.

17 posted on 09/17/2006 4:37:01 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Heartofsong83
The gun used in the crime was registered. Which proves the point Wendy Cukier overlooks: a criminal is not going to be deterred by the law from inflicting the maximum amount of harm. Liberals like her place the emphasis on the wrong end of the problem: we need to deal with criminals instead of guns. And there are situations in which a murderer has no prior criminal record. The law cannot possibly anticipate everything that comes to us in life.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

18 posted on 09/17/2006 8:34:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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