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A Battlefield for Tax Reform - Vanity
vanity | 9/17/06 | Principled

Posted on 09/17/2006 8:03:05 AM PDT by Principled

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To: Principled

I never said it was ok, nor did I say that I broke any rules, and the comment you are saying went along with the picture is also not true, so I never admitted any such thing. And I'm not in the least bit interested in what you think about whether I have embarrassed anyone.


81 posted on 09/17/2006 4:25:31 PM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: Your Nightmare

They got me banned for a week by relying on their one jounior assistant weekend pro-fairtax "pocket mod" -- whom I think was "fired" afterwards, IIRC


82 posted on 09/17/2006 4:40:11 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: RobFromGa; pigdog
I never said it was ok, nor did I say that I broke any rules, and the comment you are saying went along with the picture is also not true, so I never admitted any such thing.

Of course you didn't admit to breaking the rules. You did break them though. IIRC, the comment was "... screw you pigdog ... here's a picture of your parents ..." . Do you deny this?

Why did you ask the post be removed if you didn't think anything was wrong with it? IIRC you sais you realized it was over the line.

And I'm not in the least bit interested in what you think about whether I have embarrassed anyone.

The forum knows already.

83 posted on 09/17/2006 5:12:57 PM PDT by Principled
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To: RobFromGa
Perhaps instead of all the flaming, you could tell us point by point how beneficial your income tax is?

While you're at it why don't you show us the comparative purchasing power studies between the income tax and the FairTax as we've been doing on these threads for quite a while?

84 posted on 09/17/2006 5:20:30 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog
The purchasing power analyses show that a legal particpant in today's income/payroll tax system will have increased purchasing power.

Those who do NOT legally particpate in today's income/payroll tax system may see a reduction in purchasing power as they have to begin paying 100% of their taxes... snicker!

85 posted on 09/17/2006 5:40:48 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Principled; RobFromGa
I guess that's why when you break it down, the word is "anal-eyes" which was apparently from whence they were looking when they did the studies..

always the best research one could buy, as it were.

86 posted on 09/17/2006 5:54:51 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: pigdog
THe posts around this thread are what has happened.

The anti-s, in hopes of pulling others into a flame war, are overboard in their attacks. But because we don't want to hit abuse only to have the thread moved and be accused of whining, we don't hit the abuse button.

Then, if ever we fight back, abuse gets hit instantly of course.

IMO, that is what has allowed this problem to fester to such an extent.

87 posted on 09/17/2006 6:16:35 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Jim Robinson
It's nothing more than an invitation to continue the flame wars.

Actually, it's an attempt to get them to stop. Why would I want flame wars? THey cause threads to be hidden, locked, or deleted. It is in my interest to prevent the flame wars to prevent the hiding, locking, and deleting of threads.

The trouble is that one side wants flames and the other doesn't. ONe side tries to avoid hitting abuse and the other relishes it.

If all someone has to do is hit abuse to move a thread - with no qualitative judgement made on the post then no progress has been made.

Anyway, I do appreciate your attention to the matter.

88 posted on 09/17/2006 6:44:05 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Principled
LOL, what kind of warped sense of reality you have. These threads have been going on constantly since 1999 and anyone who dares dissent from the fairtax theology is immediately attacked. To try to claim the high ground on who wants a flame war is laughable. But keep on whinning, I am sure you are scoring major points.
89 posted on 09/17/2006 6:56:21 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

'zactly.


90 posted on 09/17/2006 7:00:21 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: pigdog

more of it right here.

can't seem to help themselves.


91 posted on 09/17/2006 7:00:48 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Principled
more of it right here.

Exactly. As Jim pointed out this whole thread started off as an invitation to a flame war. You really don't see that you are instigating it? That's the amazing part.

92 posted on 09/17/2006 7:05:28 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Principled
If all someone has to do is hit abuse to move a thread - with no qualitative judgement made on the post then no progress has been made.
Why do you assume no qualitative judgment was made?
93 posted on 09/17/2006 7:11:48 PM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: Always Right
How is this thread instigating a flame war? Pointing out perceived problems is instigating a flame war?

That's like letting the beehive continue to grow under your house... wouldn't want to instigate a bee war now! lol

94 posted on 09/17/2006 7:12:09 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Your Nightmare
Why do you assume no qualitative judgment was made?

I didn't.

You misunderstood the post.

95 posted on 09/17/2006 7:14:38 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Principled
How is this thread instigating a flame war?
Maybe you should read what you wrote. If you don't see it as inflammatory, then we know where the problem is.
96 posted on 09/17/2006 7:16:08 PM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: Principled
How is this thread instigating a flame war?

You state the opponents will stop at nothing to protect the status quo. That's a bunch of BS flame-bait if I ever heard it. Just try to get pigdog to admit the sky is up. Talk about someone who will stop at nothing.

97 posted on 09/17/2006 7:19:48 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Your Nightmare
How is it inflammatory to you YN? I see why it would bother Rob, to have his embarrassing transgression so open. It wasn't out there for that reason - it was out there to make a point about attacks.

It may have offended Rob, but it isn't my job to keep him from being offended.

I have no interest in flame wars. I do have an interest in debate. Which is why I'm lancing this pus boil. Something needs to happen.

98 posted on 09/17/2006 7:20:32 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Principled; RobFromGa
I guess it was allot easier when you could get someone banned or insult them to such an extreme extent that they would never again return to a FT thread. Too bad for you there enough skeptical people with thick skins that can withstand your abusive attacks.

This has been going on for a very long time, and it doesn't take much more than a room temperature IQ to figure out you're all posting from the same playbook. Geezer sounds like groanup posts like tpaine tries to copy pigdog who strokes principled and on and on and on.

Post after post from dubious sources placed in news/activism at oh-dark-thirty on a sunday morning (when no one is looking) and then playing innocent about it.

Whining over getting caught at your collective games like a 4 year old with his hand in the cookie jar insisting "he didn't do it -- it was the dog..."

Numerous incidents of hijacking legitimate tax threads with 500 line spam posts, ignoring posts that prove you wrong, berating and belittling innocent posters who just ask a simple question.

Some of you might indeed be very smart people - too bad all your collective efforts are wasted on a fools game.

Rational people call it "Two Card Monte"

99 posted on 09/17/2006 7:22:47 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Always Right
I do believe the opponents will stop at nothing. That is evidenced by the alternating opinions on, for example the rate being too high then too low. It is evidenced by putting a mod in a position of great embarrasment to FR - almost DU like - having a mod take sides, ridicule and berate posters on a thread. Evidenced by the "screw you pigdog - i found your parents" with a pic of animals copulating.

Perhaps that's not "stop at nothing" to you - but it is to me.

100 posted on 09/17/2006 7:24:05 PM PDT by Principled
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