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1 posted on 09/17/2006 5:26:29 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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I'm watching McCain spin his objective on the George Snuffaluffagus show and this man has lost 100% of my respect and support. He is so clearly side stepping the issue, using what I'd call a condescending voice and trying to frame this debate as changing Common Article Three.

The key phrase that I have heard from Graham and McCain is that they are more worried about what other countries think than they are about the safety of my family. These pinheads are United States Senators and it is their job not only to protect us, but to sell our positions and reasoning to the rest of the world. What the hell are they collecting a paycheck for?

 

492 posted on 09/17/2006 8:53:26 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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Morning AB, everybody...

I just got through listening to Fat Timmy, followed immediately by Mathews. I'm posting this in the blind, before my thoughts get muddied by reading other people's posts on this thread. My take is thus:

I'd heard good things about Allen, but I'd never heard him speak. After an hour of watching him do the waffle dance for fat Timmy, I don't see him as a candidate. Granted, I don't see ANY current Republican capable of topping George's act in the wings; heck, I don't see anyone who's half the man George is. We're gonna have a real problem finding a candidate who can step in George's boots.

Then, watching Chris Matthews and his crew of "journalists" anoint Clinton and McCain for '08, I decided that while I'm unsure who will win the nominations, I can't believe it will be those two; one a do nothing ostrich who didn't even show up at the fallen towers for months afterward, and the other a chameleon who changes his stripes whenever he sees and advantage no matter what the consequences to his party . . .

Well, I just can't see it.

Now I'll go contaminate my opinion with smarter people's posts.

496 posted on 09/17/2006 8:55:05 AM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and Carl Levin, D-Mich.; Hadley.

Two of my favorite Senators...Not! I trust Ken Mehlman, so Ill go along with the need for the RINOS, for the sole purpose of keeping Congress. However, these folks along with a few others, are just not worth keeping in Congress. Warner and Graham, are openly defying the President on torture. It is my contention, as I posted yesterday, that any captured jihadists that trip a Geiger counter has time sensitive, vital info that must be obtained ASAP.(Make no mistake, all captured prisoners are scanned with a gieger) How could anyone not see that?

511 posted on 09/17/2006 9:03:23 AM PDT by cardinal4 (America, despite the usual suspects, stands firmly with Israel..)
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Completely puzzling to me are the mortality statistics coming out of Iraq. Sometimes "80 die overnight in Baghdad." Other times it just gives a finding of, "25 found bound and with evidence of torture.."

I can recall no instance other than the recent statistics out of Iraq that do not try to furnish more information. Are these people Sunnis? Shiites? Kurds? Al-Queda? Are they possible terrorists who have met their just end or are they victims of crime?

The basic message of the MSM is we have lost and lost big. Headlines blare when three or more US soldiers die but not when none die. Always the message is the US cannot control the populace. The question is never asked why should we?

Iraq is a lawless place and like those five basketball players in Duchesne the reasons for these assaults and deaths are left up to one's imagination.
590 posted on 09/17/2006 10:06:34 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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Mark Kilmer has posted his review of the Sunday shows over at RedState.COM

Posted at 1:43pm on Sep. 17, 2006

The Sunday Morning Talk Shows - Review

Or "The Heads that Talk Predict the Imminent Dissolution of the GOP"

By Mark Kilmer

Sunday, September 17, 2006

On MTP, an uncomfortable Jim Webb commiserated about Iraq with Tim Russert. Allen defended himself and his policies comfortably. There wasn't much Virginia stuff here.

On FNS, National Intelligence Director John Negroponte told host Chris Wallace that the Administration was not proposing to modify Common Article 3 of the Geneva Convention but rather to apply it in a manner consistent with U.S. law. Next on FNS, House Majority Leader John Boehner warned that House Republicans will insist upon building a really big fence at our border before any other immigration matter can be discussed.

On TW, John McCain decided that the Geneva Convention is the "gold standard throughout the world" by which the treatment of prisoners is regulated. He wants us to pass a global test of sorts for the treatment of prisoners. Later on TW, National Security Advisor Steve Hadley remarked that this enemy does not capture prisoners on the battlefield. It kills them.

On FTN, Bob Schieffer noted that South Carolina was a conservative State which would punish Lindsey Graham for opposing the President. He predicted an opponent for Graham in South Carolina's primary. (It was held June 13, but...)

Hadley and Graham had a conversation in the FTN Green Room, and Schieffer seemed to think this might lead to a breakthrough.

On FTN, Arlen Specter announced that he wanted to preserve habeas corpus for jihadists, and Carl Levin put down the lemon he'd been sucking long enough to mouth off again.

On LE, Wolf Blitzer told Steven Hadley of John McCain's fears that "redefining" Common Article 3 would put our troops in jeopardy. (I'll take Ambiguous Treaties for $500, Alex.) Hadley said that they were not redefining Common Article 3 needs to be defined "because nobody knows what it means."

Read the show-by-show review beneath the fold:

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I love the line "I'll take Ambiguous Treaties for $500, Alex.

Much more beyond the Read More link


638 posted on 09/17/2006 11:06:40 AM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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ON THE NET...

THE POPE vs. THE ALLEGED INSULT - Part 3 (September 17, 2006)

THE POPE vs. THE ALLEGED INSULT - Part 2 (September 17, 2006)

THE POPE vs. THE ALLEGED INSULT - Part 1 (September 16, 2006)


Taking A Look At MORE THAN CARTOONS

780 posted on 09/17/2006 3:35:57 PM PDT by Cindy
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I thought Boehner did a great job. Almost as great as Delay! He sure didn't back down.


871 posted on 09/17/2006 6:27:33 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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