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Pope's Apology Fails To Halt Islamic Uproar
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-17-2006 | Michael Hirst - Nick Pisa

Posted on 09/16/2006 7:14:01 PM PDT by blam

Pope's apology fails to halt Islamic uproar

By Michael Hirst and Nick Pisa in Rome

(Filed: 17/09/2006)

Muslims leaders around the world demanded a more personal apology from the Pope last night after the Vatican said he "sincerely regrets" the offence caused by remarks which they claimed had insulted Islam.

Senior Vatican officials tried to damp down fury over the speech in which the Pope quoted from a medieval text saying that the Prophet Mohammed had brought the world "only evil and inhuman" things.

Activists from the Daughters of Faith protest against the Pope

Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican's secretary of state, issued a statement saying that the Pope's remarks had been misinterpreted.

He "sincerely regrets that certain passages of his address could have sounded offensive to the sensitivities of the Muslim faithful, and should have been interpreted in a manner that in no way corresponds to his intentions".

The statement expressed the Pope's "esteem" for Muslims and emphasised that he intended to underline that there was "no place for violence in religion".

But street demonstrations and sporadic violence against Christian churches continued and left two of the world's largest religions still dangerously at odds.

"We want a personal apology from the Pope," said Mohammed Habib, the deputy leader of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood. A cleric linked to Somalia's powerful Islamist movement last night called for Muslims to "hunt down" and kill the Pope.


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To: blam
"hunt down" and kill the Pope

These people are so dumb. Hunt down? Everyone knows where he lives. Why hunt?

61 posted on 09/16/2006 9:54:25 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (I would never belong to any club that would have someone like me as a member.)
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To: Redbob
And yet... there seem to be so many Catholics who vote 'D' - is that just ignorance, or is it something far worse?

Ignorance and a lot of stupidity. I don't think some Catholics even realize what is important and unimportant. There is a widespread mistaken idea that Catholic "social justice" teaching requires the support of socialistic schemes and that this is of primary importance. They are also being sadly misled by many leftists who have taken control of the church bureaucracy.

62 posted on 09/16/2006 10:58:32 PM PDT by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: ladyinred
Trust me, our President knows better, he HAS to say that publicly.And, I suspect the Pope will have to do more apologizing as the Christians in Arab countries will pay the price for his comment. This will not end until Muslims stop teaching hate crimes and calling it religion.
63 posted on 09/17/2006 3:56:13 AM PDT by Diva
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To: etlib
They are also being sadly misled by many leftists who have taken control of the church bureaucracy.

The preisthood is becoming more conservative but it takes time. These new preists have a big job ahead of them trying to turn congregations back to Cathoic teaching and away from the almost total emphasis on social justice.

64 posted on 09/17/2006 4:01:59 AM PDT by Diva
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To: blam

Just sitting here reading all this stuff from the Pope to the article from the CFP about AQ's next attack...and thinking ... maybe because it is Sunday... but...


These are really mysterious times we live in. There is a FReeper running all through these boards posting what the Pope really lectured, but maybe that wasn't what we were supposed to see & hear or learn.

Another is posting messianic revelations...

I would simply ask, "Who holds the key to the bottomless pit?" It is one of the most argued points of the Bible. Perhaps they all have it wrong...and it was symbollically the Pope?

Reading the below passages in light of recent events. Keeping in mind the expectations of the 'polite war.'

Revelation 9
1The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. (the Pope?)

2When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. (the pending attack from AQ posted in the CFP interview?)

3And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. (US retaliation?)

4They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. (our polite war?)

5They were not given power to kill them, but only to torture them for five months. And the agony they suffered was like that of the sting of a scorpion when it strikes a man.

6During those days men will seek death, but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.


65 posted on 09/17/2006 4:12:09 AM PDT by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: Phibes

No one has ever called me a pacifist.


66 posted on 09/17/2006 5:02:13 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: Redbob

I was very pleased to read the Pope's comments, but distressed to read his "apology." If a man who claims to be the apostolic successor to Peter and the Vicar of Christ is willing to retract a truthful statement, what hope exist that anyone will speak the truth.


67 posted on 09/17/2006 5:14:44 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Ah, yes - the equality and freedom so lovingly espoused by that great book are so vividly displayed in that photograph, how could anyone fail to see?

With the possible exception of those whose minds are so perversely set against the Prophet, of course.

In which case they will be dealt with compassionately and mercifully - with the Holy Butcher's Knife...

68 posted on 09/17/2006 5:22:11 AM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: quadrant
Actually I don't read it as he apologized for his statement...

He apologized for the muslim reaction, no? "... he was "deeply sorry" about the angry reaction sparked... " It is not the same thing as a retraction of the statement. He is making the apology that the Muslim Clerics should be making. That is why this apology and statement Saturday were not 'acceptable' to the muslims.

69 posted on 09/17/2006 5:29:27 AM PDT by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: MarineDad

Hey guys,,,check out the picture that goes with this story. Take a good HARD look at the figure onthe far right of the picture. Please note that a] You will note that the veil is transparent enough to see that this person is a MAN [note the facial hair under the nose [You'll need a good phot programme to see this.] and b] This same figure is carrying what appears to be a shopping bag.


70 posted on 09/17/2006 5:31:15 AM PDT by fifthvirginia (keeping their memory green)
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To: MarineDad

Hey guys,,,check out the picture that goes with this story. Take a good HARD look at the figure on the far right of the picture. Please note that a] You will note that the veil is transparent enough to see that this person is a MAN [note the facial hair under the nose. You'll need a good photo programme to see this.] and b] This same figure is carrying what appears to be a shopping bag.


71 posted on 09/17/2006 5:32:43 AM PDT by fifthvirginia (keeping their memory green)
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To: blam
Muslims leaders around the world demanded a more personal apology from the Pope last night after the Vatican said he "sincerely regrets" the offence caused by remarks which they claimed had insulted Islam.

THAT'S NOT WHAT HE SAID.
72 posted on 09/17/2006 5:39:19 AM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: fifthvirginia
"Hey guys,,,check out the picture that goes with this story. Take a good HARD look at the figure onthe far right of the picture. "

Muslims are really sick, underhanded people...nothing they do suprises me anymore

73 posted on 09/17/2006 8:03:34 AM PDT by blam
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To: W.P. Wily
We actually had people walk out of a sermon when the priest said that candidates who support abortion should not get votes from Catholics.

If I witnessed that. I would just hope that I didn't see them back in the pews the next Sunday. Just keep right on walking.

Last night I witnessed something that was so outrageous, that I could hardily believe it. A woman at a N.O.W. convention stood up and said, (paraphrased but not exaggerated)

"Just because a woman has sex, that does not mean that she wants a fetus inside of her. That fetus is an invasion of her body. And invaders need to be repelled, by violent means if necessary."

74 posted on 09/17/2006 11:03:43 AM PDT by Barnacle (America, America God shed His grace on thee.)
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To: blam
Man these rags are always looking for a reason to kill something or somebody. Religion of peace my eyeball. Where does it say the entire world has to tiptoe around these savages. ENOUGH!
75 posted on 09/17/2006 11:08:19 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (12th district Freeper.)
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To: 4yearlurker

Muslims should be treated like a wild man-eating tiger or bear...shoot on sight.


76 posted on 09/17/2006 11:25:18 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Uproar has one more r than rage. We need more words to describe nuances of arab rage.


77 posted on 09/17/2006 11:27:16 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale
"Uproar has one more r than rage. We need more words to describe nuances of arab rage."

We need to make Muslims...rare. (there, two r's)

78 posted on 09/17/2006 11:38:23 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Some of them are doing the best they can themselves. Only problem is the most dedicated, energetic ones don't last long.


79 posted on 09/17/2006 11:43:33 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: pepperdog

I think they use a keyboard macro now :-)


80 posted on 09/17/2006 11:50:51 AM PDT by Mmmike
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