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Arab Op-ed: Pope’s Remarks May Lead to War(The sooner, the better)
ynetnews.com ^ | 9/16/2006 | Roee Nahmias

Posted on 09/16/2006 5:30:25 PM PDT by kellynla

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To: kellynla
"Pope’s Remarks May Lead to War"(?)

The global terrorist forces of Islamic jihadism have been at war with the West for years.

In this photo made available by British 20th Armored Brigade, a British helicopter lands with the supplies for the British soldiers from Maysaan Battle Group from the U.K.'s 20th Armored Brigade, in Maysaan province, near Iraq-Iran border, southern Iraq, Wednesday Sept.13, 2006. The pink smoke on the right is released by soldiers to help the helicopter crew know where to land. (AP Photo/British 20th Armored Brigade,Cpl. Anthony Boocock,HO)

US Army Sergeant Derrick Martin (L) and Captain Christopher Dye scan the ridgeline for enemy movement along the border region near Pakistan, September 13th, 2006. Thousands of Afghan and foreign security forces kicked off a major new offensive against the Taliban in eastern Afghanistan as a NATO-led operation wound down in the south.(AFP/File)

Canadian soldiers prepare to carry out a patrol in the north of Kandahar province, southern Afghanistan in May 2006. Canada will send 200 more soldiers and a Leopard tank squadron to Afghanistan the defence department said, "in light of the changing tactical situation in the area."(AFP/File/John D McHugh)

61 posted on 09/16/2006 11:31:26 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: kellynla

"The most extreme opinion was voiced by Hani Pahas in the London-based Arabic-language daily newspaper Al-Hayat, who wrote “the pope’s comments may lead to war; we fear that the pope’s statements may lead to a war that we, Muslims and Christians alike, are trying to prevent through dialogue between East and West. "



I rec'd this in an email tonight

The Pope says that jihad violence is against God's nature, and officials fear that in response, Muslims enraged by this insult will commit... jihad violence.

Muslims murder 3,000 innocents in New York and expect no criticism.
Muslims murder 202 tourists in Bali and expect no criticism.
Muslims murder 333 schoolchildren and their teachers in Beslan and expect no criticism.
Muslims murder 292 innocents, mainly Kenyans and Tanzanians at two US Embassies and expect no criticism.
Muslims murder 241 US and 58 French peacekeepers in Beirut and expect no criticism.
Muslims fire 4,000 Katyusha rockets into Northern Israel killing over 50 innocent civilians and expect no criticism.
Muslims murder 52 in London and 191 in Madrid and expect no criticism.
Muslims murder 200 in Mumbai and expect no criticism.
Muslims behead Western hostages in Iraq, Buddhist monks in Thailand and Christian schoolgirls in Indonesia and expect no criticism.
Muslims murder 500,000 in Darfur and expect no criticism.
Muslims regard Jews as 'sons of pigs and monkeys', and vow to nuke Israel and expect no criticism.
Muslims force women to wear hideous sacks, stone to death women for getting raped and for leaving the home unescorted, engage in honor killings of sisters and daughters for unapproved dating, and expect no criticism.
Muslims danced in the streets and handed out sweets to their kids to celebrate the 9/11 atrocity, and still expected no criticism.
Since 9/11 Muslims have killed over 26,000 and wounded over 50,000 in terrorist attacks worldwide since 9/11 and expect no criticism.
Since 9/11 Muslims have committed terrorist attacks in Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Chad, Chechnya, Dagestan, Denmark, East Timor, Egypt, England, Eritrea, Ethiopia, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Ingushetia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Jordan-Iraq, Kabardino-Balkans, Kenya, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Mauritania, Morocco, Netherlands, Nigeria, Pakistan, Gaza-Palestinian Authority, Philippines, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Scotland, Somalia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Thailand, Tunisia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, United Arab Republic, United States, Uzbekistan and Yemen, and still expect no criticism.

Muslims have carried out over 5,800 fatal terrorist atrocities since 9/11, and countless thousands since Islamic conquest began in 623 AD and expect no criticism. But if a Pope dares to tell the truth about Islam or Danes publish cartoons about Mohammed, then let the outpourings of Islamic hate and outrage begin.

And, in some twisted reach of logic, some demand the Pope issue an apology.


62 posted on 09/16/2006 11:35:55 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: arthurus
God is not bound by his Word in that he cant choose to recant.

God can do everything, but He is faithful and true. That is why we can rely on His promises and laws.

He is loving so He makes exceptions and changes in favor of His creatures.

63 posted on 09/16/2006 11:39:47 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: chuckr

"The only thing these Muslims want is war and the western countries should give them war...NUCLEAR WAR....finish them before they do the same to us....."

My husband and I said the same thing last night. It's not going to get better, so let's do it now!


64 posted on 09/17/2006 3:43:50 AM PDT by Mila
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To: uncbob
I disagree.

This is spiritual warfare.
Bible believing Christians know and understand that there has been a struggle for the mind of man since The Garden. It manifests itself in various ways, but the root is the jealosie (sp?) Satan has of man .. God's favored creation.

Fast forward .... Born-again Christians have no fear of death .. we know where we're going ... Islamists have no fear of death .. if they obey .. they know where they're going.

It will do no good to get into any theological debate here ... or anywhere, for that matter .. discussing what I just said .. suffice it to be a truth to the believer .. it is fact.

And that is the spiritual warfare.
Too many Americans opted for a secular education over a spiritual education and we now have a nation that is torn over the name of Jesus.

Satan and Islam is laughing at us.

The Pope is now in the position President Bush has been in for 6 years .. will he respond from/with his convictions?

Or play religio-politics?

65 posted on 09/17/2006 4:16:54 AM PDT by knarf (Muslims kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: kellynla

Well, on the bright side, at least the Pope didn't draw a cartoon. That would have been big trouble.


66 posted on 09/17/2006 5:35:01 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I think I have said worse than that. I am tired of this charade.


67 posted on 09/17/2006 5:57:53 AM PDT by rep-always
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To: reluctantwarrior
"I'm a reserve Lt Colonel, but I'm starting to show my age (44) so if it is going to go loud I want it now. My girls are 13 and 9 and I want them to be free from fear of the Islmaic nutjobs."

I know how you feel: I'm a retired Master Sergeant, 51 and arthritic, with daughters who are 12 & 9, and a 14 yo son. I'm not really too old to fight, but too old and sick to do so effectively. I'd much rather get it over with now.
68 posted on 09/17/2006 6:08:25 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: kellynla
There can be no "dialogue" with Islam. Their stance is total, final and permanent. There is only appeasement and delay as they score one small victory after another.

I have felt uneasy and unsettled for a long time now. It's as if something big is brewing, something so big that there's no point in looking for a different job or a better TV plan. Something is coming that is so big, we will all be uprooted from our couches and forced to participate in, whether willingly or not. It is coming. Best to get up off the couch now and prepare ourselves.

69 posted on 09/17/2006 6:31:08 AM PDT by Sender (Earth: 4.5 billion years old. Islam: 1400 years old. Nukes: 61 years old. Stay tuned.)
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To: Sender

I think you may be right

Earth is beginning to spin off its axis

Things can't keep up like this

What I would do is bombard the muslims countries with airborne dropped phamplets stating MOHHAMED WAS A PYSCHO NUT JOB WHO ESTABLISHED A FALSE RELIGION AND SPREAD IT WITH THE SWORD
CONVERT TO THE TRUE RELIGION OF CHRISTIANITY
( I am an agnostic but realize people need religion and Christianity is much much better than Islam )

Then I would send the bombers out round the clock day after day and lay waste to Iran's nuke and military capabilty

At the same time I would level MECCA the DOME OF THE ROCK and EVERY valued holy place of the muslims and every place where the mullahs are suspected of living

That is what is needed

But it won't happen so we will procrastinate etc etc until finally it becomes the end of modern man and he dawning of a new Dark Age --If humanity survives


70 posted on 09/17/2006 9:59:49 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: arthurus

Everything except the first sentence makes perfect sense.


71 posted on 09/17/2006 9:05:14 PM PDT by FarRockaway (This despotic gerrymander a greater freedom than what once was?)
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To: Sender
When the phoney war In Iraq and Afghanistan is finally displaced by the real thing the immediate question for the home folks is how will all the Pak and Egyptian , etc., doctors and convenience store clerks behave. Most are very serious about their religion. I know because one cannot say "good morning" to many of them without getting a promo for conversion. Be armed and well stocked with ammunition. These folks are not like the Isei and Nisei of WWII who had left their non aggressive religion on the other side of the Pacific Ocean. To every Mohammedan there is ultimately only one point to their religion- convert or kill. It does not depend on "interpretations" of various arcane passages in their holy book. The book speaks plainly and does not draw limits of geography or groups.

The Japanese in America, citizens and sojourners, showed no inclination to do anything for their "homeland" but the situation was dire enough that America took no chances, thus the internment camps. How many of these "lone nut" sprees in airports and on streets and in Jewish facilities, how many snipers in Maryland do we have to experience before we understand that the saracens in our midst are not so benign?

72 posted on 09/18/2006 4:59:46 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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73 posted on 09/18/2006 5:01:29 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 119: 1-96)
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To: Old Student

I wanted Papa Bush to take care of business in 1991 so my son wouldn't be exposed to it. Unfortunately he didn't. Now my son is in the line of fire. Let's take them on now so my grandchildren won't have to. This is insane. Why do we keep kicking the can down the road?


74 posted on 09/18/2006 5:17:05 AM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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75 posted on 09/18/2006 5:29:26 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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"I wanted Papa Bush to take care of business in 1991 so my son wouldn't be exposed to it. Unfortunately he didn't. Now my son is in the line of fire. Let's take them on now so my grandchildren won't have to. This is insane. Why do we keep kicking the can down the road?"

Go back and look at who all was telling him we were done, and should withdraw. BOTH sides of the House and Senate, all the MSM, and much of the public. Why? Because no one actually pays any attention history. It's why I became a teacher. It's also probably futile. Call me Don Quixote.


76 posted on 09/18/2006 5:49:48 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: arthurus

Keep your powder dry, and if the shi'ite hits the fan, Praise the Lord and Blast Them to Perdition!


77 posted on 09/18/2006 7:09:00 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Alouette
Who knows how to say "Kiss my Holy Roman @ss" in Latin?

Vescere bracis sancta romana meis comes pretty close. But I far prefer the happy poetic thought of Mihai Eminescu, Romania's national poet:

Unde eºti tu, Þepeº Doamne, ca punând mâna pe ei, Sã-i împarþi în douã cete: în smintiþi ºi în miºei!

78 posted on 09/19/2006 12:51:42 PM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: FarRockaway
Excellent dissection of the problem. There can be no meaningful dialog with these people because their understanding (or lack of) of God's attributes are totally at odds with that of the Christian understanding of God's attributes.

The fact is that most Muslims cannot even begin to see the irony of their position, and when faced with the dichotomy they instinctively lash out in a violent manner. They refuse to see the truth out of utter ignorance stupidity, and stubborness<./P>

Genesis 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence, of all his brethren.

79 posted on 09/19/2006 1:23:38 PM PDT by semaj
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To: kromike

Come on. That makes entirely too much sense.

Nobody in our government has the nuts to speak the truth, much less stop the muslim stuff already brewing in this country, thanks largely to our "friends" the Saudi Wahabbists who directly fund 80% of the mosques in the USA.


80 posted on 09/19/2006 1:32:01 PM PDT by 308MBR (When you call islam "medieval", muslims get mad and act even more "medieval".)
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